The popes at it again..

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7797269.stm
So now Gay people are criminals? Ye it isn't the child molesters or mass murderers who are the criminals but gay people. Maybe we should lock them all up?

How about you go to the rationale behind that instead of jumping to conclusions - or, rather, trying to make other people jump to conclusions?

"Unjust discrimination" against gay people should be avoided, but the use of wording such as "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" in the text would "create serious uncertainty in the law", it said.

[tibilicus]

How about you go to the rationale behind that instead of jumping to conclusions - or, rather, trying to make other people jump to conclusions?

What you've done is completely wrong. You quoted my post and purposely left out the extract I posted.

How is it jumping to conclusions when The Vatican says that decriminalizing homosexuality is a step to far? tell me what you get out of that quote because all I can get is the Catholic Church's blatant homophobic attitude.

If the church really does accept the theory of evolution why are they so afraid to move in to the 21st century on issues like this?

Also your quote about the world biggest charity anyone. If the pope really cared so much he could sell of all the Church's property and assets and probably solve world hunger over night. Would he though? Over his dead body. It's like saying bill gates is a billionaire businessman who contributes vast sums to charity. What does he care more about though his business or his charity work? The business obviously. The church is no different from this.

Also are you denying that the core of the church isn't riddled with corruption dotted through out history?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

What you've done is completely wrong. You quoted my post and purposely left out the extract I posted.

When you press the quote button it does not automatically include material quoted by the quoted user. I fail to see how it is completely wrong, though I'm sure Tosa would be willing to listen if you have an issue with the quotation system.

How is it jumping to conclusions when The Vatican says that decriminalizing homosexuality is a step to far? tell me what you get out of that quote because all I can get is the Catholic Church's blatant homophobic attitude.

Because you took an excerpt from a newspaper and proclaimed it to explain the whole story, while leaving out the Vatican's explanation from the same article?

Also are you denying that the core of the church isn't riddled with corruption dotted through out history?

And what do you call corruption? Where are your modern-day examples of such?

[tibilicus]

And what do you call corruption? Where are your modern-day examples of such?

The fact a lot of clergy men are playing far from the rules is corruption enough. Look at all the cases where priests and the church have paid families of who were victims of child molestation. That money was to stop the press getting hold of such things. Now couldn't that money be spent helping those truly in need? Instead of shielding the clergy from there disgraceful acts which they are to cowardly even to admit?

Are you also telling me that you honestly think higher positions amongst the cardinals and such have never had asking prices on? I.E I'll let you get to this level of the clergy if you make it worth my while.

The fact the pope is treated like a king is enough. As far as I'm aware isn't the whole idea of the pope to preach Gods word? Maybe instead of having the big palace and robes as well as having people kiss his ring he could accept that if there is a God he isn't it. I just see him sitting there on his thrown and think to myself " what gives you the right to play the role of God amongst men?".