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    Default Re: The popes at it again..

    Conjecture and personal opinion.



    Oh, they are irritating, but they don't actually read the Bible, book by book, they read bits at a time.



    Progressive revelation and human fallability. Regardless of the origin of any religion it is transmitted by people.

    Like most Atheists I don't jump to conclusions, as a kid I attended church, I was never forced to, but I can honestly say that almost from day one the whole concept of me standing in a building and clapping my hands and singing songs to praise something I can't even see seemed primitive and pointless to me.

    This is like me as a Christian saying, " don't believe I'm right, I know." It looks exactly like you are jumping to conclusions here. You certainly don't know anything about Catholicism if you though they didn't accept evolution.



    This is a common misconception. Adherence to Christian doctrine does not equal salvation, such has never been stated. Hell is the punishement meted out to unrepentant sinners. You are unrepentant, but so is the Bishop who steals from the Collection Plate. As far as living a good life, consider this:

    You live an outwardly good life without being a Christian, this suggests to others that they can do likewise. Therefore, by your actions tou condemn them to hell because you incite others to participate in the Sin or rejecting God.

    Personally I'm not concerned overmuch with my own salvation. God will either save me or he won't, I just try to do the best I can because I have no real understanding of how the decision is made.[

    I know enough about the Vatican and it's passed to know that it is a corrupt organization. Even going back to issues such as indulgences in the 15th and 16th century this is evident to seem. Again this isn't saying all Catholics are corrupt but the main institution IMO could be a hell of a lot more spiritual and more in touch with God instead of the other act it engages in. The amount of wealth not just the Catholic church but other churches demand is staggering. Religion is a multi billion doller business and if you believe the Pope and co really care about our salvation over there bank balance then that I'm afraid is wrong.

    Also as a Christian I would like to ask you which sins have I committed? Not believing in something with no fallible evidence? Does your teachings also suggest that if a murderer repents his sins he's free to go to heaven but as long as i'm a good man but refuse to accept something that has no solid backing I will rot in hell?

    It would appear God doesn't just work in mysterious way but incredibly illogic ones..
    Last edited by tibilicus; 12-23-2008 at 20:35.


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