The popes at it again..

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Even still why would it of made it into the news and why would so many groups be outraged by his remarks? You seem to ignore the fact that his remarks were offensive and many gay rights groups have already condemned and are outraged by his remarks. Maybe you need to stop defending some one who has made a clear statement which has offended many people.



Dyslexia can effect the way you read sentences as well as your ability to put them together. It also effects other things like hand writing and the like. It also obviously effects my reading speed and my ability to read stuff clearly hence why I often don't proof read anyway. I find your statement here quite offensive because you not only question me but then go on to suggest I'm a retard who can't spell. I don't have a clue who on earth you think you are by saying this but I'm incredibly offended you would try and insult my intelligence on this level. Your post carry an extremely snobbish undertone in that bit of your post.

I sincerely hope your not this offensive in real life by trying to get low blows over on peoples intelligence and there learning problems. You know if your going to try and get me with another low blow like that don't even bother posting in this thread again.

What may be God's greatest gift to us of all is free will. You may believe as you choose, as may I.

You have studied myths and stories, compared cultures and religions and have, you believe, hit upon a central idea -- that it is all "make-believe." Well-intentioned, perhaps, but not to be taken seriously when compared to the absolutely proveable results of scientific research. For you, Life, Self-conscious sentience, and the entire panapoly of existence are merely the random by-products of happenstance following the eruptive dissolution of a singularity -- and ultimately meaningless since they have their brief moment in the sun ameliorated only by the chance to transmit their DNA towards a future that will inevitably be blotted out when the nearest star begins its inevitable decay. Or, as Shakespeare said, "sound and fury, signifying nothing."

I look out a an incomprehensibly vast universe that all our science has only BARELY begun to describe and see the hand of God. I see the vibrant spirit that shines from my daughter's eyes, and in that light I think I glimpse a bit of God's promise of Heaven.


Can I prove you wrong? No. Can you prove me wrong? No. We will come upon the answer in time -- or not, if your version of life is correct.

[tibilicus]

What may be God's greatest gift to us of all is free will. You may believe as you choose, as may I.

You have studied myths and stories, compared cultures and religions and have, you believe, hit upon a central idea -- that it is all "make-believe." Well-intentioned, perhaps, but not to be taken seriously when compared to the absolutely proveable results of scientific research. For you, Life, Self-conscious sentience, and the entire panapoly of existence are merely the random by-products of happenstance following the eruptive dissolution of a singularity -- and ultimately meaningless since they have their brief moment in the sun ameliorated only by the chance to transmit their DNA towards a future that will inevitably be blotted out when the nearest star begins its inevitable decay. Or, as Shakespeare said, "sound and fury, signifying nothing."

I look out a an incomprehensibly vast universe that all our science has only BARELY begun to describe and see the hand of God. I see the vibrant spirit that shines from my daughter's eyes, and in that light I think I glimpse a bit of God's promise of Heaven.


Can I prove you wrong? No. Can you prove me wrong? No. We will come upon the answer in time -- or not, if your version of life is correct.

I don't really have time to reply as I want some sleep but can I just add that for some one who takes a completely different view on life to me that was a really good post. Kudos to that.

[Mooks]

What may be God's greatest gift to us of all is free will. You may believe as you choose, as may I.

You have studied myths and stories, compared cultures and religions and have, you believe, hit upon a central idea -- that it is all "make-believe." Well-intentioned, perhaps, but not to be taken seriously when compared to the absolutely proveable results of scientific research. For you, Life, Self-conscious sentience, and the entire panapoly of existence are merely the random by-products of happenstance following the eruptive dissolution of a singularity -- and ultimately meaningless since they have their brief moment in the sun ameliorated only by the chance to transmit their DNA towards a future that will inevitably be blotted out when the nearest star begins its inevitable decay. Or, as Shakespeare said, "sound and fury, signifying nothing."

I look out a an incomprehensibly vast universe that all our science has only BARELY begun to describe and see the hand of God. I see the vibrant spirit that shines from my daughter's eyes, and in that light I think I glimpse a bit of God's promise of Heaven.


Can I prove you wrong? No. Can you prove me wrong? No. We will come upon the answer in time -- or not, if your version of life is correct.

I see the hand of Odin and Thor (Jk)

Do you think that the main difference between atheists and theists is that atheists trust whats physical and theists put their trust more on the emotional side?

[HoreTore]

Only if you vote for it. Which is your choice.

That tops of my list of "naive statements of today".

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Even still why would it of made it into the news and why would so many groups be outraged by his remarks? You seem to ignore the fact that his remarks were offensive and many gay rights groups have already condemned and are outraged by his remarks. Maybe you need to stop defending some one who has made a clear statement which has offended many people.

No, he hasn't made a clear statement. People have gone, "Ah, the Pope! He must have meant Y when he said X." Now he may well have meant Y, but that does not change the fact that he said X, not Y.

As far as Gay Rights groups go, it is their job to be outraged. They exist to prevent us from overstepping a certain line.

Dyslexia can effect the way you read sentences as well as your ability to put them together. It also effects other things like hand writing and the like. It also obviously effects my reading speed and my ability to read stuff clearly hence why I often don't proof read anyway. I find your statement here quite offensive because you not only question me but then go on to suggest I'm a retard who can't spell. I don't have a clue who on earth you think you are by saying this but I'm incredibly offended you would try and insult my intelligence on this level. Your post carry an extremely snobbish undertone in that bit of your post.

I sincerely hope your not this offensive in real life by trying to get low blows over on peoples intelligence and there learning problems. You know if your going to try and get me with another low blow like that don't even bother posting in this thread again.

Dyslexia can affect the way you read sentances, because your eyes don't track, but it doesn't affect the way you form them because Dyslexia is primarily a disfunction of reading, not a disfunction of Grammar.

Now, let me make this very clear:

I was offended because you suggested that, A. I believed I was better than you because I was a Papist, when I would not and am not (a Papist), B. That you should be excused from the correct use of spelling and grammar because you claim to have a "minor" dysfuction of reading.

If you have trouble writing that would be dysgraphia, if you have trouble with composing written sentences that is the fault of your teachers. Nowhere did I suggest you were mentally deficient but I am not impressed that you claim dyslexia as an excuse.

Nor did I like the your snide tone.

Now, it is Christmas Eve and this is the point at which I sign off until Boxing Day.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I both agree with the Pope AND beleive I am better than others because of my Papism.

Merry Christmas, even to those who choose to contravene basic human sexuality with their destructive lifestyle choices!

[Banquo's Ghost]

This thread is now going to take a break for Christmas.