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    Liar and Trickster Senior Member Andres's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    Civilian casualties are regretable, but practically impossible to avoid.
    I know an easy way to avoid civilian casualties: don't attack
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    Default Re: Some joyous tidings from Israel

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    Then maybe Israel shouldn't shoot at them with high explosives in the first place...?
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    I know an easy way to avoid civilian casualties: don't attack
    So you are both essentially in favour of Israel sitting back and taking rocket attacks, and not utilizing the right to defend itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    So you are both essentially in favour of Israel sitting back and taking rocket attacks, and not utilizing the right to defend itself?
    Well, I think I made my point of view on this matter pretty clear in my previous posts.

    I'm all for peace. As long as rockets and bullets are floating through the air, there won't be no peace.

    Somebody in this conflict has to be the first to stop killing people
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    Default Re: Some joyous tidings from Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    So you are both essentially in favour of Israel sitting back and taking rocket attacks, and not utilizing the right to defend itself?
    Israel is going to be suffering such attacks, in one form or another, as long as it's going to insist on being a stubborn ass about the Eretz Yisrael thing. So meh. Build a house in a swamp, and the mosquitos will sting you.

    On a more practical note, the rocket attacks are essentially a gesture and cause few if any casualties. Conversely, the Israeli reprisals are very destructive and cause huge numbers of casualties. Do the damn math. If they now must strike back, they could at least try to do it in a fashion that didn't cause massive collateral damage.

    Hamas is never going to play nice with Israel. Look at their founding charter. Whatever Israel does, Hamas is never, ever, ever going to be peaceful.
    Ink on paper, self-declared. Realpolitik tends to sideline such heady declarations something fast once the situation changes. Bet you the same was once said about the USSR and their grandiose hot air about "perpetual world revolution" and the IRA regarding the UK...
    Hell, more likely than not the PLO/Fatah too.

    So yeah.
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