Some joyous tidings from Israel

**Guildenstern** · 12-28-2008, 19:16

Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

Killing a large amount of enemy combatants in a series of surgical strikes is not wrong.

There is nothing "surgical" in the Israeli raids of these days. They are the closest thing there is to a full-scale war between Israel and Hamas. This is definitely the harshest Israeli assault on Gaza since the territory was captured during the Six-Day War in 1967.

**seireikhaan** · 12-28-2008, 19:29

I believe this sums up my view on this conflict, from both sides.

Originally Posted by Dhammapada

In this world
Hate never yet dispelled hate.
Only love dispels hate.
This is the law,
Ancient and inexhaustible.

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 12-28-2008, 20:02

Until the people there say "Enough!" and beats up their politicians and generals for not delivering them peace these kind of news don't impress me.

I would say "Wow!" and would be surprised if I would hear that Israel have sent humanitarian help to the Palestinians instead of tanks.

**Idaho** · 12-28-2008, 21:06

Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

Until the people there say "Enough!" and beats up their politicians and generals for not delivering them peace these kind of news don't impress me.

I would say "Wow!" and would be surprised if I would here that Israel have sent humanitarian help to the Palestinians instead of tanks.

The Pals were offered a choice of corrupt and failed Fatah or an organised and active Hamas who had delivered extensively on grassroots projects. Israel and the US decided that this was the 'wrong' kind of democracy and shut down the fledgling Pal state.

**Hooahguy** · 12-28-2008, 22:20

Originally Posted by Idaho

The Pals were offered a choice of corrupt and failed Fatah or an organised and active Hamas who had delivered extensively on grassroots projects. Israel and the US decided that this was the 'wrong' kind of democracy and shut down the fledgling Pal state.

really? hamas was only for the advancement of the palestinian people? how about that, and the destruction of israel? dont leave out the fact that hamas wants israel destroyed.

**rasoforos** · 12-28-2008, 22:23

Originally Posted by hooahguy

really? hamas was only for the advancement of the palestinian people? how about that, and the destruction of israel? dont leave out the fact that hamas wants israel destroyed.

Its the middle bloody east...Everyone wants everyone else destroyed since 7000 bc

**Hooahguy** · 12-28-2008, 22:42

ignore

**Tribesman** · 12-28-2008, 22:25

No to both - therefore any 'act of war' is in fact collective punishment and not only illegal but immoral.

Way to go Idaho

only when they realized the PLO was less worse than hamas, if im understanding you correctly.

errrr...before which Hamas was encouraged as a counter to the loony PLO

Bugger me sideways hooah you give it the big "I am jewish" but you are frigging clueless about Israel .
You are nearly as bad as that Kach supporting idiot son of a star who used to post .

arent sending rockets at israeli civilians also "illegal?"

Yes , who has said it isn't ?

please, the illegal thing isnt really going to work here.

errrrrr.....yes it does unless Israel pulls out of all the agreements and organisations that define the legality , oh sorry I was wrong , in one part they are safe because their blind friend has a veto .
Well spotted

Thats part of the discussion you ....( I ain't allowed to say Jim Henson creation anymore am I?)

hamas has no rules. trying to play by the rules while you enemy has none wont help you.

Actually it will .

it will only make things worse.

Absolute bollox .

technically anyone who aids a combatant becomes one him/herself

You really havn't the faintest idea what you are talking about .
Might I humbly suggest that you drop that typical Brooklyn "I am a Jew" rubbish and attempt to look at the position with open eyes ?

**Hooahguy** · 12-28-2008, 22:41

Originally Posted by Tribesman

errrr...before which Hamas was encouraged as a counter to the loony PLO

Bugger me sideways hooah you give it the big "I am jewish" but you are frigging clueless about Israel .
You are nearly as bad as that Kach supporting idiot son of a star who used to post .

i think you mean "Bar Kochba."
sadly israel turns to the wrong people. they turn to the opponent of the one in power. and when did i proclaim recently that because i am jewish i do know more?
so before we get into name calling, which im sure is against the rules, im going to ignore this little comment.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Yes , who has said it isn't ?

considering you arent coming down no where near as harsh on them.....

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Actually it will .

prove it.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Absolute bollox .

as before, prove it. where has it worked? certainly not in iraq.

You really havn't the faintest idea what you are talking about .
Might I humbly suggest that you drop that typical Brooklyn "I am a Jew" rubbish and attempt to look at the position with open eyes ?[/QUOTE]
might i humbly suggest you stop posting with contempt?

ok, so just to make things easier for everyone, what exactly is you position on israel, or as you like to ignorantly call it, "Palestine?"

**Hooahguy** · 12-28-2008, 22:23

Originally Posted by Guildenstern

There is nothing "surgical" in the Israeli raids of these days. They are the closest thing there is to a full-scale war between Israel and Hamas. This is definitely the harshest Israeli assault on Gaza since the territory was captured during the Six-Day War in 1967.

wait. how would you know that they are surgical or not?
and how do you know this is the harshest raid on gaza? have you been a participant in every raid on gaza since the six-day war?

Yeah...as surgical as a 90 year old neighborhood butcher with parkinson's...after a few pints...

and how do you know that israeli raids havent been surgical?

**rasoforos** · 12-29-2008, 16:15

Originally Posted by hooahguy

wait. how would you know that they are surgical or not?
and how do you know this is the harshest raid on gaza? have you been a participant in every raid on gaza since the six-day war?

and how do you know that israeli raids havent been surgical?

I know so mainly because I live in the real world...

Lets see some latest targets too:

'An Israeli strike early Monday hit the Jabalya refugee camp, leaving five children dead in a home that was damaged when a nearby mosque was hit, said Dr. Mu'awiya Hassanein. The Israeli military had no immediate comment.'

Oh...and bombing the University was a good one too.

Bravo Israel, great election campaign.

**Furunculus** · 12-29-2008, 17:49

Originally Posted by rasoforos

Oh...and bombing the University was a good one too.

that university was a bit different to the one about a mile away from me, if only because i'm sure that mine doesn't have a bomb factory inside it.

and as far as i know they didn't drop a fuel-air explosive on top of the entire complex including student halls, they launched precision strikes on the bomb factory itself.