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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    I know I was exaggerating. What I was trying to get at still is isn't it surprising that a group of militants armed by a fledgling country (Iran) could defeat a country who's military is supplied by the worlds super power?
    you can ask the same thing about the US in vietnam, and many other conflicts.

    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    Even if it did that doesn't matter. Oh and yes I have seen it. As I said earlier I wouldn't have a problem with the Israeli people defending themselves if attacked within the original partition plans but the fact is there not within the partition plans. The decision to previously allow Israeli settlements on the west bank and Gaza just show Israel's greed and it's desire to accumulate the whole territory.
    they were attacked within the partition plan borders, and as the arab forces retreated, the israelis followed, getting more land, because as the arab armies retreated, the Palestinians, hearing about how the jews were gonig to kill them and such, ran with them. with all the empty land, we took it. to the victors goes the spoils. it was wrong, but we did it, and theres no going back. we certainly cant go back now.

    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    Also native Americans were in fairly small numbers whilst the Europeans were arriving in large numbers. It's the other way round as people are arriving in Israel in small numbers to take the majority's land.
    really? tell that to the 15,000 native americans who were forced onto the Trail of Tears. there were a lot of indians. they were certainly the majority when the first settlers got there. it was the exact same situation. small amount of settlers would enter the land, then eventually increase. the reason why the israelis increased so rapidly was because after the holocaust, there was no where to go but israel. the US, and most allied countries had strict immigration laws, and most Holocaust survivors were pinned up in DP camps for a long time.
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