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    Default Re: Some joyous tidings from Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    That is the problem. The claims that have been used to legitimize Israel would lead to the creation of a myriad other countries, and since the myriad countries will not be created since the very same governments who accept the reasons for the creation of Israel refuse for others to use those same reasons to create new nations on their own territory, one can only argue that the creation of Israel is an exception, and using the concept of jurisprudence, therefore illegal and illegitimate.
    No, the problem is that historical claims in general are absurd and irrelevant. As such, the Palestinian claim of owning that land is as worthless as the possible Hungarian claim of the Urals or the Jewish claim. It doesn't matter who was there first or who has lived there for centuries. The only thing that matters is who owns it now. Such is the nature of land grabs throughout the history.
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    Default Re: Some joyous tidings from Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by rvg View Post
    No, the problem is that historical claims in general are absurd and irrelevant.
    See how you are right? Problem is that by the time Israel was supposed to be formed, there was already a thing called International Law. And that law repeats what you have just said, then how come Israel was still created?

    Bottom-line: If Israel hadn't been created, these wars wouldn't exist and these people wouldn't have been killed.
    BLARGH!

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