Some joyous tidings from Israel

[Tribesman]

and neither has hamas. do you really expect israel to keep their part of the deal if hamas hasnt?

Works both ways
Do you really expect hamas to keep to the deal if Israel hasn't ?
And since what was written was ....Israel keeps itself to the peace-treaty
What was your point ? oh you don't have one

Besides, calling it a deathcamp doesn't fit the facts.

Yep it doesn't fit the facts , the Vatican were more accurate calling Gaza a concentration camp , or that Israei proffesor calling it an open air prison .

you cannot deny that

One major difference is that Israel is a signatory to the conventions so they are supposed to abide by them .

[Hooahguy]

so hamas can go and massacre hundreds of citizens if it wants to because they didnt sign?

[rory_20_uk]

so hamas can go and massacre hundreds of citizens if it wants to because they didnt sign?

I feel the more pertinent issue is Israel doing it - irregardless of what a piece of paper states.

[Hooahguy]

I feel the more pertinent issue is Israel doing it - irregardless of what a piece of paper states.

so basically you say its ok for hamas to do it, but you go all up in arms if israel is accused of doing it.

[Slyspy]

so basically you say its ok for hamas to do it, but you go all up in arms if israel is accused of doing it.

Err, yes. The reason why should be obvious.

[Hooahguy]

Err, yes. The reason why should be obvious.

the point is that if the reasons for outrage is humanitarian, you should be equally outraged at both sides.

[rory_20_uk]

what do you think the secondary explosions were within the facilities after the IDF hit it?
also happened with the mosque, which was turned into a weapons storage compound.

Do you have a link for that?

the point is that if the reasons for outrage is humanitarian, you should be equally outraged at both sides.

How about a ratio of outrage based on purely the deaths caused in this current conflict as it's difficult to put a figure on the rest of the misery (treatable deaths due to destroyed infrastructure etc etc)

Palestinians: 700. Estimated over half civilian casualties
Israelis: under 20

[Slyspy]

the point is that if the reasons for outrage is humanitarian, you should be equally outraged at both sides.

Believe me I hold both sides equally in contempt. The fanatics on both sides are foolish, weak willed, short sighted and hateful people led by the vainglorious and the powerhungry. And the longer the conflict continues the greater their numbers swell.

The reasons that Israel comes in for more criticism than Hamas are numerous. Mostly it is because they are the Western democracy taking on the mantle of terror, whereas Hamas is the Arab terrorist outfit taking on the mantle of democracy. There is also an element of "us and them", whereby we see our own culture and values reflected in Israel and so are disappointed when she strays.

[rory_20_uk]

Hamas isn't doing it. Israel is. That is the pertinent issue. I hope you can try not to infer bias in this again.

To humour you: no, I don't think Hamas should attack Israel and kill 700 and rising people, blow up buildings and cut off Israel's food and water. That would be bad. I don't think Hamas should have nukes either.

I don't think there should be a situation in Palestine where people in desperation vote for a group like Hamas.

[Incongruous]

so basically you say its ok for hamas to do it, but you go all up in arms if israel is accused of doing it.

Yes, an occupying colonial force invokes by its impressement upon the natives, a foreign and brutal rule, the natural consequence of bloody reprisal. You want to play conquest then you have to accept the terms.

Israel hs never held to any peace treaty, has constantly been warring upon the Palestinian people and is a rogue state of the most heinous sort. Thank god that their bank is going down, justice cannot be too far off.

[tibilicus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7818577.stm





As that article explains Israel has the coordinates of UN run facilities which they have been bombing.

What exactly do UN facilities and aid have to do with Hamas?

hiding terrorists in the food bags? smuggling rockets in medical supply's?

What excuse can israel have for this? Is their aim really that bad? If it is they should really train their armed forces a bit better.

[Hooahguy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7818577.stm





As that article explains Israel has the coordinates of UN run facilities which they have been bombing.

What exactly do UN facilities and aid have to do with Hamas?

hiding terrorists in the food bags? smuggling rockets in medical supply's?

What excuse can israel have for this? Is their aim really that bad? If it is they should really train their armed forces a bit better.

what do you think the secondary explosions were within the facilities after the IDF hit it?
also happened with the mosque, which was turned into a weapons storage compound.