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    Default Fight to the Death, and Heroes's Special Ability

    I just compared my experience played M2TW Kingdoms Crussader, and British Islands. They are quite different in tactics... In Crussaders, soldiers are more prone to fight to the death, rather than routs, but in the British war, soldiers are more easily rout than usal... Can it implied on EB II? (Spartans and Princepes-upward will fight to the death, but most troops routs)


    How to give each generals (or at least each faction Leader) a great rallying ability as Richard the Lionheart, Philip of France, Saladin, or Alex Commenos in Crussader's campaign. It could be used only once in each battle...

    I was read that Julius caesar has this kind of ability, when he saw his enemy's troops breaking into his line and his troops has allready begin a mass rout.... only to be cancelled when he yelled loudly, and personally charge the line, while cursing his own soldiers as coward...

    Or Maybe we can emulating bribing enemy troops, as the Emperor Alex Kommenos, bribing is a very regular activity indeed... especially if U playing a huge economic monster such as Kardhastim.

    The Barbarians could get the "Jihad-esque" ability, they will start fighting to the death when their leader's called...

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    Default Re: Fight to the Death, and Heroes's Special Ability

    It would have to be a phenomally inspirational leader. It also depends on the experience of the troops as well; I've seen units of 3 gold chevrons Levy Hoplites fight to the man (Literally, one guy left). I doubt there's many elite troops which would do that.

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    Question Re: Fight to the Death, and Heroes's Special Ability



    The default rally ability doesn't satisfy you? It kind of sounds like you're supporting the inclusion of superhero generals...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf
    The Barbarians could get the "Jihad-esque" ability, they will start fighting to the death when their leader's called...
    ... Why?

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    Default Re: Fight to the Death, and Heroes's Special Ability

    I wouldn't mind if the one for Antioch was given to the AI generals(assuming they could use it) because it gives a stamina and attack bonus. And we all know how bad the AI is at managing stamina.
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    Default Re: Fight to the Death, and Heroes's Special Ability

    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post


    The default rally ability doesn't satisfy you? It kind of sounds like you're supporting the inclusion of superhero generals...



    ... Why?
    i think thats exactly what he proposes only for all generals
    thats what i understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by theoldbelgian
    i think thats exactly what he proposes only for all generals
    thats what i understand
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    Default Re: Fight to the Death, and Heroes's Special Ability

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    Originally Posted by theoldbelgian
    i think thats exactly what he proposes only for all generals
    thats what i understand
    Cute Wolf's a weird kid...
    LITERALLY: YES.... The general's Rally ability are sooo bad in M2TW (Better in RTW)... I had an unpleasant experience wen my full stack Lithuanian army in Teutonic, Spanish army in America, and Scottish army in British.... Routs and keep routs when my general's trumpetting them... even with no enemy unit nearby, and they just suffer 20% casualities...

    In vanilla M2TW too.... In RTW, we can hope 90% chance that routing units will back when Generals trumpetting them, but that M2TW gives ridiculous rout rallying ability, that';s why exactly I purpose to give all generals one-time rally ability(or other ability), or gives units more penchant to fight to the death...

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