Let's Play Guess the Faction! (With Maps!)

[Azlahn]

"Provincie sconosciute" is Italian. Means "unknown/unexplored province".

8 on the North American Map is really a mystery to me, especially considering how it is so far apart from the other provinces. How are you supposed to get to it? Can you march across the mighty province of Sconosciute, but not build anything within it, nor occupy it? Will new provinces appear gradually throughout the game as the areas become available for colonisation? Will you get slow-teleported to it in the same manner as you cross from the Atlantic into the Indian Ocean? I would really like to know.

[Sir Beane]

"Provincie sconosciute" is Italian. Means "unknown/unexplored province".

8 on the North American Map is really a mystery to me, especially considering how it is so far apart from the other provinces. How are you supposed to get to it? Can you march across the mighty province of Sconosciute, but not build anything within it, nor occupy it? Will new provinces appear gradually throughout the game as the areas become available for colonisation? Will you get slow-teleported to it in the same manner as you cross from the Atlantic into the Indian Ocean? I would really like to know.

I think the unknown land is colonisable. On the other maps impassable territory is represented with a light grey colour. The dark grey in America is totally different. I wouldn't worry about it not being poassable or having to use a slow teleport.

[Azlahn]

I'd say your interpretation makes sense. Also, on the complete map the "Provincie sconosciute" in the old world is followed by "sempre che ci siano" in parenthesis, which I think would translate into something like "always being this". It sounds like a really great idea to me, though I wonder how the colonization will take place.

[Sir Beane]

I'd say your interpretation makes sense. Also, on the complete map the "Provincie sconosciute" in the old world is followed by "sempre che ci siano" in parenthesis, which I think would translate into something like "always being this". It sounds like a really great idea to me, though I wonder how the colonization will take place.

So far we have seen it confirmed from screenshots that in normal provinces cities and towns appear after a certain number of turns to simulate population growth. In the America territories it may be that you take them and hold them buy getting troops to them first, then after a while a town pops up. Of course that's a complete guess, we have very little information on this topic.

[Fisherking]

At TW center I found the first screen shot of the Americans had the map of the theater which showed more provinces, some in tribal colors. I don’t have the time or technical skills to blow it up and post it here. If some one else dose, Great!

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...=214676#Thamis

Europe

10. The Small German States, including; Baden, Württemberg, Rhineland, Palatine, Saarland, Hesse, Westphalia, Lower Saxony, Bremen, and others. There only seem to be four or five provinces here though, so I will not guess as to the names or capitals.

On a 1700 European Map they are called Small States.

http://www.euratlas.com/history_euro..._map_1700.html

America

10. Is the Virgin Islands. Porto Rico is the island just below them. The English, Dutch, French, Spanish and Danish all jostling for control of the region so without more definition on the map to see colors any guess is a good one.


Good Hunting!

[Megas Methuselah]

The good news for modders is: There will no longer be a hard-coded limit on regions.

Did you guys already know about this? There's going to be some really good mods, I think!

Btw, I hope they do a good job at representing those unknown lands of North America. This "colonization" idea makes it seem as if there's nobody already living there and that you could just go there without encountering resistance and establish your own settlements.

[Sir Beane]

Did you guys already know about this? There's going to be some really good mods, I think!

Personally I'm looking forwards to a Empire version of the BigMap mod. North America, India, North Africa, and Europe in glorious close up with as many regions as we want!

I want a map so huge that I have to play the game at 4 turns per year just to be able to see it all!

[General SupaCrunk]

"Provincie sconosciute" is Italian. Means "unknown/unexplored province".

8 on the North American Map is really a mystery to me, especially considering how it is so far apart from the other provinces. How are you supposed to get to it? Can you march across the mighty province of Sconosciute, but not build anything within it, nor occupy it? Will new provinces appear gradually throughout the game as the areas become available for colonisation? Will you get slow-teleported to it in the same manner as you cross from the Atlantic into the Indian Ocean? I would really like to know.

8 is Sioux

[Fisherking]

8 is Sioux

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I would have a tendency to agree more with ConnMon, that it could be Cree, but if so the next province west holds the Blackfoot Tribes. The Sioux are south of them by a ways. They will be in the Blackhills and then perhaps going east as far as near Lake Superior if they include the whole Nation, and not just a part of it.

[ConnMon]

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I would have a tendency to agree more with ConnMon, that it could be Cree, but if so the next province west holds the Blackfoot Tribes. The Sioux are south of them by a ways. They will be in the Blackhills and then perhaps going east as far as near Lake Superior if they include the whole Nation, and not just a part of it.

I agree on the Sioux. Why wouldn't they have a nation-plot of their own? Not only were they a large tribe, they controlled a large area (as you stated, the black hills). Also, they still sit on a rather large reservation outside of the badlands. They'll probably end up with a Rebel nation deal or something, and they will control the "Black Hills" region. Also, they might be split up into Lakota, Dakota, etc. I'll have to check that.

[Fisherking]

Here you go. This should tell you most of what you need to know.


Condensed from Wiki:


Sioux comprise three major divisions based on dialect and subculture:

Santee or Eastern Dakota residing in the extreme east of the Dakotas, Minnesota, and northern Iowa,


Yankton or Western Dakota residing in the Minnesota River area, they are considered to be the middle Sioux


Teton or Tetonwan and are often referred to as the Lakota the westernmost Sioux

The seven branches or "sub-tribes" of the Lakota are Sicangu, Oglala, Itazipco, Hunkpapa, Miniconjou, Sihasapa, and Ooinunpa.

Today, the Sioux maintain many separate tribal governments scattered across several reservations, communities, and reserves in the Dakotas, Minnesota, Nebraska, and also in Manitoba and southern Saskatchewan in Canada.


Map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sioux01.png

[Sir Beane]

Thats pretty useful info Fisherking. I have to admit I know next to nothing about the history of North America, aside from vaguely remembered info taken from watching old Westerns.

It's actually nice to get to play a game set in a location that I know very little about. Seeing the various factions, towns and units should be an interesting experience for someone like me. Plus I have the advantage of not knowing how histroically (in)accurate it will all turn out to be

[Megas Methuselah]

But was that where they were in 1700? That info seems rather modern...

[Fisherking]

In the game map of America from the time of the Revolution that I have, you can see the French have a little spot in South America (French Gahanna ) but nothing in the north. However, there are two provinces colored very similar to the French, which is what I meant in a remark I made about shading, earlier. These could be a couple of tribes. Maybe Cherokee & Choctaw or some similar. There are also several other native factions shown. You can just make out that the British hold the Bahamas and Jamaica. The Spanish have also spread into the southwest.

The British province south of Hudson Bay has turned light green! So it is either native or Hudson Bay Company has formed its own faction. The British hold Florida while the Spanish hold Louisiana
and native factions appear on the bordures.

[Fisherking]

Thanks Great Lord M!!!

you got it blown up beyond a thumbnail!

In the game map of America from the time of the Revolution that I have, you can see the French have a little spot in South America (French Gahanna ) but nothing in the north. However, there are two provinces colored very similar to the French, which is what I meant in a remark I made about shading, earlier. These could be a couple of tribes. Maybe Cherokee & Choctaw or some similar. There are also several other native factions shown. You can just make out that the British hold the Bahamas and Jamaica. The Spanish have also spread into the southwest.

The British province south of Hudson Bay has turned light green! So it is either native or Hudson Bay Company has formed its own faction. The British hold Florida while the Spanish hold Louisiana
and native factions appear on the bordures.

ROFLOL!!!

I have to quote my self!!!


Sometimes you guys don't listen well at all!

On thinking it over the Frenchish spots are most likely Choctaw and Creek.

The Cherokee would be in the Mountains and have a narrower profile.

and the map is 1775!!!