Ancient Partying

[Novellus]

Novellus, send me the stuff. I'm on winter break, for high school.

Uh, you can type it in Google yourself! I'm in high school too! One day, my mom's going to use the computer and type something into the search engine like "home improvement" and when she types in "hom", there's going to be a popup from the previous search "homosexuality in Ancient Greece"! Then I'll have to explain that one!

It was on the History Channel. It was on pretty late and it looked interesting. And boy, the ancients knew how to party!

Maybe I can get my weird friend to get you a link. His excuse for not liking Greece was because of the homosexuality that was promoted!

I'll have that link as well. Anything ancient-world related is my cup of tea, even if it is gay man boy love.

Uh.....something tells me I should watch what I say on these threads!

By the way, did anyone notice that these two smiley faces look EXACTLY THE SAME?

[Ibrahim]

Okay, counterquestion: Who had the best alcohol?
Cuz I'm joining with em.

The Arabs!

or the Anglo saxons-I can't tell the diff.

not that I ever darnk it :proud:

[Hax]

Muslims have the best alcohol. The best of all.

[antisocialmunky]

I'll have that link as well. Anything ancient-world related is my cup of tea, even if it is gay man boy love.

Even if its nibbling on the rump of a old man Tiberius style?

[Novellus]

Even if its nibbling on the rump of a old man Tiberius style?

Here's an idea: let's send Dayve to the Averni or Aedui tribes!

Think about it: all of the posts have been either booze, fights, or women (or in Dayve's case, other men).

So if we sent him there, he could party with the Gaesetae, get drunk like hell, get hopped up on magic potions, get into fights, and have all the NAKED MEN that he fantasizes about!

(All right, I'll stop now!)

[||Lz3||]

I wouldn't mind being a roman patricius (sp?)

Thought their tastes are kinda weird... diluted wine and/or Mulsum? pff (wine and honey) <.<


Is better than being ancient greek... with all that boy loving thing... hehehe

[Dayve]

Here's an idea: let's send Dayve to the Averni or Aedui tribes!

Think about it: all of the posts have been either booze, fights, or women (or in Dayve's case, other men).

So if we sent him there, he could party with the Gaesetae, get drunk like hell, get hopped up on magic potions, get into fights, and have all the NAKED MEN that he fantasizes about!

(All right, I'll stop now!)

No no, i don't think my penis is big enough to be a part of the gaesatae. I think if the Romans saw the Gaesatae marching towards them, and then they saw me in the middle, they'd nudge each other and say "Hah! look at that ones penis!" and all the other gaesatae would be like "Dude, go join the slingers man, you're letting the unit down".

Then i'd have to wander the battlefield waiting for someone to die so i could steal his pants.

[Subotan]

Here's a balloon to make you feel better Dayve.

(The other reason is because you made me LOL )

[gamegeek2]

Obv the chicks love the Gaesatae, and they also use drugs, better party (not for me, that stuff does bad stuff to your body). Check out Russia Almighty's AAR for more proof.

I have a feeling that this thread will be locked soon.

[Ibrahim]

Muslims have the best alcohol. The best of all.

Iranis to be exact-they're stuff gets smuggled to kuwait every year. lots of people can die from it (apparently a jug=overdose)

Iraqis are next best, followed By Egyptians, Jordanians, nd Morroccans.

do Algerians drink hard, Hax? they're the only ones whose Alcohol black market/market is a mistery.

otherwise *brings in "jama3at khars innasi"*

thatwas Arabic for: group to silence people-like a mafia really.

[Codyos Vladimiros]

Bah, those Hetaira were probably too sophisticated for our simple modern minds. They were meant to entertain men's brains as much as genitals, and as far as brains and philosophical discussions go, the vast majority of us would be lost. Our modern wits have degenerated quite a bit, not to mention that we are not the elites and the brightest of our society, as the clients of Hetairas were. So I doubt any of you would be able to appreciate them. Mindless gladiatorial games are just the right thing for us, stupid and violence-addicted modern plebs.

I'd gladly duel wits with a Hetaira any day, mind you--even more than I'd like to do that other thing. Smart women, especially whose who I can have intelligent discourse with, are terribly sexy.

I'd go for a elite Symposion, with Hetaira, philosophical discussion, and good wine! I party low-key!

[a completely inoffensive name]

This thread is so awesome, I wish it was a sticky.

[Cute Wolf]

Wow...

Muslims have the best alcohol. The best of all.

But in my country alcoholic beverages didn't get Halal marks from MUI...

Despite most of my "Muslim" friends drink beers and smoke hard..... that's right... no matter if they're haram for them...

[Subotan]

I wish it was a sticky.

Just how sticky do you want it to be?

[gamegeek2]

I'd gladly duel wits with a Hetaira any day, mind you--even more than I'd like to do that other thing. Smart women, especially whose who I can have intelligent discourse with, are terribly sexy.

I'd go for a elite Symposion, with Hetaira, philosophical discussion, and good wine! I party low-key!

Let's just shift them into modern times, with modern looks, clothes, brains, etc. Then let's see

[Novellus]

No no, i don't think my penis is big enough to be a part of the gaesatae. I think if the Romans saw the Gaesatae marching towards them, and then they saw me in the middle, they'd nudge each other and say "Hah! look at that ones penis!" and all the other gaesatae would be like "Dude, go join the slingers man, you're letting the unit down".

Then i'd have to wander the battlefield waiting for someone to die so i could steal his pants.

Well Dayve, it's pretty obvious that you have self-esteem issues. So remember this saying:

It's not how long big your spear is--- it's how you use it.

Think of it this way. I play as Koinon Hellenon quite a bit. They have hoplitai and Spartiartai. But the Makedonians are all proud over there with their huge sarissas. So the Makedonians march over and are like "Ha, take a look at their puny spears!" So they march into Greece, lay siege to Athens, and try to screw everyone over with the're long spears.

But guess what: they all ran away from Greece! Why? It's because even though the Greeks had short spears, they still screwed the Makedonians over in the end (due to flanking and various other tactics under my leadership).

Now in real life, the Makedonians conquered Greece due to the success of the pike phalanxes in combination with heavy cavalry. But still, guys with long spears get screwed over by guys with short spears in close combat.

Now I know what you're thinking: "How do I use my spear?" Well, the Asian peoples had the same problem and the Kama Sutra solved the problem with creative methods. I'm not going to describe it here, but basically, it tells us that size doesn't always matter when it comes to getting the job done!

So, go out there and learn how to use your spear!

"To lead untrained men to war is to throw them away"- Sun Tzu

Oh, and you can add this in your signature box with your balloons:

[antisocialmunky]

Now in real life, the Makedonians conquered Greece due to the success of the pike phalanxes in combination with heavy cavalry. But still, guys with long spears get screwed over by guys with short spears in close combat.

You do realise that if you applied your metaphor completely to that statement you're advocating keeping someone occupied with the penis and then going up the rear when they aren't paying attention...

[Novellus]

You do realise that if you applied your metaphor completely to that statement you're advocating keeping someone occupied with the penis and then going up the rear when they aren't paying attention...

Well actually, that was going about it HISTORICALLY. The point was that pike units can still get outperformed by the humble short-spearman!

Good one though. But that'd be a two-man job.

[Dayve]

Well Dayve, it's pretty obvious that you have self-esteem issues. So remember this saying:

It's not how long big your spear is--- it's how you use it.

Think of it this way. I play as Koinon Hellenon quite a bit. They have hoplitai and Spartiartai. But the Makedonians are all proud over there with their huge sarissas. So the Makedonians march over and are like "Ha, take a look at their puny spears!" So they march into Greece, lay siege to Athens, and try to screw everyone over with the're long spears.

But guess what: they all ran away from Greece! Why? It's because even though the Greeks had short spears, they still screwed the Makedonians over in the end (due to flanking and various other tactics under my leadership).

Now in real life, the Makedonians conquered Greece due to the success of the pike phalanxes in combination with heavy cavalry. But still, guys with long spears get screwed over by guys with short spears in close combat.

Now I know what you're thinking: "How do I use my spear?" Well, the Asian peoples had the same problem and the Kama Sutra solved the problem with creative methods. I'm not going to describe it here, but basically, it tells us that size doesn't always matter when it comes to getting the job done!

So, go out there and learn how to use your spear!

"To lead untrained men to war is to throw them away"- Sun Tzu

Oh, and you can add this in your signature box with your balloons:

It was more of a joke than anything to be honest. I won't talk about the size of my penis here, i'll just say that when un-erect it isn't as big as that of the Gaesatae model, at least from the angle i see it from.

Although, the Gaesatae model looks like they have been circumcised, and circumcision always adds, if only visually, quite a big of length onto it. In reality it's still the same size, it simply looks bigger.

[antisocialmunky]

There was a thread at the TWC about whether EBII naked units will have a mix of circumcised and uncircumcised willies as well ones of every size and shape.

I'm glad I stopped posting there. The Org is so much better.

[Dayve]

Was circumcision even heard of among the men of western "barbarian" tribes and peoples in EB's timeframe?

I know it's always been a stupid and pointless eastern religious custom which unfortunately spread to the west, but had it spread west as early as 272BC?

[Ibrahim]

Was circumcision even heard of among the men of western "barbarian" tribes and peoples in EB's timeframe?

I know it's always been a stupid and pointless eastern religious custom which unfortunately spread to the west, but had it spread west as early as 272BC?

It ain't pointless or stupid man...

anyways, as far as can be told, no, the western europeans didn't practice Circumcision. In fact, Hadrian tried to ban/proscribe the practice in the 2nd century AD.

But in my country alcoholic beverages didn't get Halal marks from MUI...

Despite most of my "Muslim" friends drink beers and smoke hard..... that's right... no matter if they're haram for them

well, their choice to do it-I'm not their sargeant..

[Conqueror]

Now in real life, the Makedonians conquered Greece due to the success of the pike phalanxes in combination with heavy cavalry. But still, guys with long spears get screwed over by guys with short spears in close combat.

You do realise that if you applied your metaphor completely to that statement you're advocating keeping someone occupied with the penis and then going up the rear when they aren't paying attention...

Surprise buttsecks!

Concerning that battle maneuver in EB, I prefer using naked Galatian mercenaries for the job. They're brutally effective at it, and don't need any spears.

Anyway, if I were living in the classical times I wouldn't care for parties. Certainly not for any bloody games in the circus. What I'd do is build up a big harem of the prettiest slave-girls I could afford, and spend all my free time in their company...

[Cyclops]

There are some great ancient parties on record: Kleopatra (and her ear-ring) vs Antony, Damocles vs Dionysius 2, Alexander vs the Persepolis fire brigade...

I guess the ancients would find our parties somewhat unstructured, as I believe even Roman orgies had rules. However there are more consequences in our world of CCTV and hand held camera phones (as I found out this New years Eve-I believe I'll be on U Tube soon, as "comatose guy in blanket on porch")...

Still it would be marvelous to quaff Falernian (sp.?) with Caesar or a krater with Kraterus, with a translator and a kevlar vest (just in case Brutus or Alexander showed up a bit snaky). In vino veritas and all that, you could get a real insight into their true character.

I suspect the modern array of products with all the types of alcohol and drugs on offer would pretty much shatter our ancestors. They led tough lives we can't imagine, but refined spirits and unfamiliar chemicals would lead to some quick goodnights.

Was circumcision even heard of among the men of western "barbarian" tribes and peoples in EB's timeframe?

I know it's always been a stupid and pointless eastern religious custom which unfortunately spread to the west, but had it spread west as early as 272BC?

Maybe they'd be circumcised as a result of battle? Just the hardened veterans.....

[marodeur]

I'll have that link as well. Anything ancient-world related is my cup of tea, even if it is gay man boy love.

you ve also seen alexander - the movie ?

[Aemilius Paulus]

Does it bother anyone that people here seem to be so obsessed with discussing penises? Oh, and please, not another Alexander(movie)/"was megas Alexandros gay" discussion!

[penguinking]

Was circumcision even heard of among the men of western "barbarian" tribes and peoples in EB's timeframe?

I know it's always been a stupid and pointless eastern religious custom which unfortunately spread to the west, but had it spread west as early as 272BC?

It's certainly not pointless- it dramatically reduces the odds of contracting STDs.

[Dayve]

It's certainly not pointless- it dramatically reduces the odds of contracting STDs.

That's really just a myth that advocates of circumcision like to tell people. Any doctor who knows his stuff will tell you that's a crock.

[Atilius]

Did someone say "ancient partying"?

...He said that he met with Socrates fresh from the bath and wearing his best pair of slippers—quite rare events with him—and asked him whither he was bound in such fine trim.

“To dinner at Agathon's,” he answered. “I evaded him and his celebrations yesterday, fearing the crowd; but I agreed to be present today...

...A few moments after, they heard the voice of Alcibiades in the forecourt, very drunken and bawling loud, to know where Agathon was, and bidding them bring him to Agathon. So he was brought into the company by the flute-girl and some others of his people supporting him: he stood at the door, crowned with a bushy wreath of ivy and violets, and wearing a great array of ribands on his head. “Good evening, sirs,” he said; “will you admit to your drinking a fellow very far gone in liquor, or shall we simply set a wreath on Agathon—which indeed is what we came for—and so away? I tell you, sir, I was hindered from getting to you yesterday; but now I am here with these ribands on my head, so that I can pull them off mine and twine them about the head of the cleverest, the handsomest, if I may speak the—see, like this! Ah, you would laugh at me because I am drunk? ...

...Reclining there, he proceeded: “Now then, gentlemen, you look sober: I cannot allow this; you must drink, and fulfil our agreement. So I appoint as president of this bout, till you have had a reasonable drink—myself. Agathon, let the boy bring me as large a goblet as you have. Ah well, do not trouble,” he said; “boy, bring me that cooler there,”— for he saw it would hold a good half-gallon and more. This he got filled to the brim, and after quaffing it off himself bade them fill up for Socrates, saying, “Against Socrates, sirs, my crafty plan is as nought. However large the bumper you order him, he will quaff it all off and never get tipsy with it.” ...

... when suddenly a great crowd of revellers arrived at the door, which they found just opened for some one who was going out. They marched straight into the party and seated themselves: the whole place was in an uproar and, losing all order, they were forced to drink a vast amount of wine...

[Cute Wolf]

Well, the most polite and using well their brain will JUST DRINK... and get their sexytime with their wifes and slaves at home... at least they are safer and doesn't transmite the STD's