The Scourge of Ephesus [Concluded]

[TinCow]

But this with your also over-exaggerated behavior makes a case

Please explain what over-exaggerated behavior I have engaged in.

[ULC]

But this with your also over-exaggerated behavior makes a case

And is it coincidence that YLC changes his vote after tincow gets more votes than tevash? he votes for tevash when tincow is in danger, to re-even it, could YLC be linked with tincow?, this with YLC's "sypathy votes" when he doesnt seem that unlucky makes him a secondary suspect to me, if he was to be mafia, i would then vote against tincow or vica versa, I'm happy i was took notice of by white eyes but i am non the less a dead man, and i've been wrong in the past so listen at your disgression.


Basically YLC changing his vote right after white eyes to save tincow is scum of the earth behavior to me, and if he doesnt give detailed justification or re think, i would say tincow and YLC could just be mafia

And there you would be wrong Ares - stop trying to find clues where there are none. I almost never pay attention to the tally, and I vote however I please. Sigurd's post got me thinking again about why one should vote for Tevash - if Tevash is mafia, then the town scores a victory, however minor it may be. If Tevash is not mafia, then the suspicion falls upon RR, which if he is mafia, was a pointless move.

I don't think TC is mafia, I think TC is playing the way TC plays, nothing more. The thing about mafia is is that each person holds an opinion on what each players, based on role, should play like. Discard this notion immediately - it is in your best interests.

[Thermal]

Discard this notion immediately - it is in your best interests.

you can't kill me again YLC a threat just increases the suspicion

[Thermal]

Please explain what over-exaggerated behavior I have engaged in.

near start with ATPG, who indicates you all have weird roles no one else can understand, which doesn't exactly comfort me either

[TinCow]

near start with ATPG, who indicates you all have weird roles no one else can understand, which doesn't exactly comfort me either

That was called humor. If you're not aware, I'm somewhat fond of making up role PMs, particularly amusing ones.

[Thermal]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

no the distractions are working!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Please, for the love of all that is good in this world, put this round out of its misery.

[ULC]

you can't kill me again YLC a threat just increases the suspicion

It was never a threat Ares, although it can be taken that way. I was informing you to abandon this idea mafia should play this way, and town should play this way, etc. It's in your best interests to try and analyze the situation, not the people. Each player plays differently and has different perceptions on how the game should be played.

Your jumping on TC because of a specific overall belief he has - should I vote for you on the sole basis of a specific belief you have?

[Thermal]

no because voting for the dead is illegal, this isn't just a belief in playing, but your sudden vote clinches it to me, it's not like there are many leads, and thats as good as any, he must have expected something with all his attention seeking, and no im judging behavior not the person, i know your usually kind to me in mafia game, but that doesn't mean i can go easy on a suspect

[El Diablo]

Unvote TheFlax

Vote TevashSzat

...and Reink you're next if this proves to be a bad lynch.







(prays that all his years of schooling helped him get the right your or you're. )

[TevashSzat]

Okay guys seriously, what the hell is with the bandwagon on me?

I can guarantee you that Reenk is lying at least in regards to me because I am a townie, but I bet half of the guys who just bandwagoned on me are mafiosos so yeah.....

How would you guys react if I just started saying that I have a good source who says Tincow is a mafia member?

Thus, I will Unovte, Vote:Tincow because I am trying to act out of self preservation and wanting to lynch Reenk later in the game.

I believe atm, Tincow and I are both tied at 6 votes each

@Sigurd

What is there to counter other than he made an arbitrary accusation? I am a townie, there is nothing for me to counter because he has no evidence other than "his word." In fact, no one has any evidence against me, but are all bandwagoning on because "Reenk said so"

Oh, also FOS: Sigurd, Seamus, El Diablo, White_eyes

[shlin28]

I do not trust RR at all, so I would not like to see Tevash dead because of his words.

On the other hand, we have Tevash tied with a known strong mafia player who knows every trick in the book about fooling the town. He may be innocent in this game, but thats a risk I am not willing to take.

Vote: Tincow

[TinCow]

As I am now no longer in the lead, I can return my vote to the best lynch candidate.

Unvote: Reenk Roink
Vote: Lord Winter

Tevashzat : 6 (Quintus, Seamus, Sigurd, Yoyo, YLC, El Diablo)

TinCow (aka Bovine) : 5 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, FactionHeir, Reenk Roink, White_Eyes:D)

Reenk Roink : 2 (Jolt, Tevashzat)
Lord Winter : 2 (TheFlax, TinCow)

Askthepizzaguy : 1 (Beefy187)
boudica : 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
Caius : 1 (Ibn-Khaldun)
El Diablo: 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir : 1 (glyphz)
Ibn-Khaldun : 1 (woad&fangs)
Jolt : 1 (boudica)
White_Eyes:D : 1 (Caius)
YLC : 1 (CountArach)

[shlin28]

Correct Tally I think:


TinCow (aka Bovine) : 7 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, FactionHeir, Reenk Roink, White_Eyes:D, Tevash, shlin28)

Tevashzat : 6 (Quintus, Seamus, Sigurd, Yoyo, YLC, El Diablo)

Lord Winter : 2 (TheFlax, TinCow)

Reenk Roink : 1 (Jolt)
Askthepizzaguy : 1 (Beefy187)
boudica : 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
Caius : 1 (Ibn-Khaldun)
El Diablo: 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir : 1 (glyphz)
Ibn-Khaldun : 1 (woad&fangs)
Jolt : 1 (boudica)
White_Eyes:D : 1 (Caius)
YLC : 1 (CountArach)

[TinCow]

Yeesh, so much for that. The above list is wrong due to posts while it was being written.

Unvote: Lord Winter
Vote: Tevashzat

[ULC]

-Nevermind-

[shlin28]

New new new tally:


TinCow (aka Bovine) : 7 (GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, FactionHeir, Reenk Roink, White_Eyes:D, Tevash, shlin28)
Tevashzat : 7 (Quintus, Seamus, Sigurd, Yoyo, YLC, El Diablo, Tincow)

Lord Winter : 1 (TheFlax)
Reenk Roink : 1 (Jolt)
Askthepizzaguy : 1 (Beefy187)
boudica : 1 (Tiberius of the Drake)
Caius : 1 (Ibn-Khaldun)
El Diablo: 1 (Chaotix27)
FactionHeir : 1 (glyphz)
Ibn-Khaldun : 1 (woad&fangs)
Jolt : 1 (boudica)
White_Eyes:D : 1 (Caius)
YLC : 1 (CountArach)

[CountArach]

Anyone who willingly goes to their death in mafia is a fool. There seems to be this absurd notion in mafia games that townies should be happy to die. I see no advantage whatsoever to townies letting themselves get lynched. That's one less vote for the town and one less target that the mafia have to kill off. If you want to hold my desire to remain alive in the game against me, so be it. I have never been, nor will I ever be, content to simply be lynched if there is any possible way to avoid it.

The logic is that if townies make no noise as they go then we can easily tell if we have got a member of the mafia - mafia are going to kick up a stink about it.

[TinCow]

The logic is that if townies make no noise as they go then we can easily tell if we have got a member of the mafia - mafia are going to kick up a stink about it.

That is a very bad strategy. Doctors and Detectives also kick up a stink about being lynched.

[CountArach]

That is a very bad strategy. Doctors and Detectives also kick up a stink about being lynched.

Detectives can reveal.

[Thermal]

That is a very bad strategy. Doctors and Detectives also kick up a stink about being lynched.

they may also at least try and reveal if it means saving themselves, which hasnt been done, shocker

[ULC]

they may also at least try and reveal if it means saving themselves, which hasnt been done, shocker

The sarcasm is not needed. The point TC is making is that lynching on the basis of wanting to live is a bad way to go on about it - in his opinion.

[TinCow]

they may also at least try and reveal if it means saving themselves, which hasnt been done, shocker

Because I'm neither. I was simply pointing out a flaw in his strategy, not claiming a role. I am just a normal townie who is being lynched largely because I won 2 of my last 4 mafia games. While it is somewhat flattering, it is also annoying because it has nothing to do with how I actually play in this game. I don't mind a retribution lynch for Netherworld and Midgard (and I'll admit I might deserve it), but please try and get it out of your systems now and try and judge me on my actual gameplay in the future.

[Thermal]

I havent a clue about your other games, i assure you im not interigating you on your previous success, im oblivious to it

[TinCow]

I havent a clue about your other games, i assure you im not interigating you on your previous success, im oblivious to it

Let's look at the case against me, shall we?

First, GH votes for me because of my previous games.

Then Ignoramus and FH think I'm suspicious because I'm trying to do as little harm to the town as possible.

I don't care or protest at this point, and TheFlax even agrees with me on my vote.

Then Reenk Roink votes for me simply to save his own butt.

This now puts me over the top based on pretty much nothing, so I defend myself and vote for Reenk Roink.

Then people get upset because I defended myself, ignoring that RR did the same thing first. Somehow RR is ignored in all of this and Tevashzat, likely a hapless victim of RR's games, is the one in competition for the lynch. He votes for me out of self-preservation as well.

Finally, I'm nicely bookended with yet another vote due to my previous games.

So, of 7 votes against me, 2 are because of my previous games and 2 are for self-preservation. That's a very nice case you've built against me. Kudos on your detective work.

[Reenk Roink]

I hope both of them get killed. I'll personally kill the survivor.

[ULC]

Wow...I am a bit floored TC...I feel I must ow try harder in my mafia games

[Thermal]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Let's look at the case against me, shall we?

First, GH votes for me because of my previous games.

Then Ignoramus and FH think I'm suspicious because I'm trying to do as little harm to the town as possible.

I don't care or protest at this point, and TheFlax even agrees with me on my vote.

Then Reenk Roink votes for me simply to save his own butt.

This now puts me over the top based on pretty much nothing, so I defend myself and vote for Reenk Roink.

Then people get upset because I defended myself, ignoring that RR did the same thing first. Somehow RR is ignored in all of this and Tevashzat, likely a hapless victim of RR's games, is the one in competition for the lynch. He votes for me out of self-preservation as well.

Finally, I'm nicely bookended with yet another vote due to my previous games.

So, of 7 votes against me, 2 are because of my previous games and 2 are for self-preservation. That's a very nice case you've built against me. Kudos on your detective work.

you hadn't adequently defended yourself before this point, so don't blame me

[GeneralHankerchief]

So, of 7 votes against me, 2 are because of my previous games and 2 are for self-preservation. That's a very nice case you've built against me. Kudos on your detective work.

Oh come on, you yourself have said that the first round is nothing but randomness and chaos. I was thinking about taking my vote off of you but not after this statement.

[TinCow]

Oh come on, you yourself have said that the first round is nothing but randomness and chaos. I was thinking about taking my vote off of you but not after this statement.

IMO, your vote is the most valid one on me, simply because it was random. What started as random turned into a bandwagon, and thus I've had to defend myself.