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    Default Re: The Scourge of Ephesus (IN PLAY)

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    It's a first-round lynch. I'm not sure of your case against me in this round, but my reasons for not voting Reenk have already been explained above. I was considering shifting my vote to a third party (not TC or Reenk) for a while, since I never intended TC to get lynched, but after his "aggravation" post I decided to leave it on him.
    My case against you is twofold here, and you are missing the boat on what I was arguing. My point is this: you lodged an early, supposedly random vote. You proceed to argue with other players. You then moan and whine and hiss about wanting the round to end. TC rightfully complains about getting railroaded for no reason, and then you blast him for it and claim, after you proclaimed to want the round to end, that you were considering to unvote TC. At some point, you are lying here. Further, the lynching of TinCow means he cannot be exonerated through a night killing. Hence, for a mafioso, the successful lynch of such a good player right at the beginning of the game is a stroke of genius. Tell me, should we ever let you or Seamus or Sigurd or Andres be the victim of a "random" lynch on day one, with little to go on? Of course not, if they are townspeople they are quite helpful. TC is in this same boat. Day one is NOT the time to lynch such skilled players. And I believe you know this just as well as anyone else here. Further, if you hadn't intended to get TC lynched, why did you vote him in the first place?


    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    For the record, I lost track of things in that round. I do recall posting, I believe, and thought I had lodged my vote in that post.
    Fair enough, we all make mistakes. Hurricanes, however, do not.



    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Sigurd wasn't getting lynched that round. At that point, I didn't have my case against him, just a suspicion. If my vote left Quintus then he wouldn't have as much incentive to get on, post, and defend himself (for the benefit of everyone else).
    You'll have to explain this further to me. Exactly why do you not go after the one who you deem suspicious, and instead vote a player you claimed was "helping". I am failing to see the logic here.



    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Note my reasons for voting Sigurd above.
    There's a problem, however. Sigurd ACKNOWLEDGED his mistake and declared that he stood corrected here. Yet you still did not recognize this fact. Again, I believe you are intentionally doing your best to take down innocent vets, so as to cast doubt upon any potential suspicion they might lodge towards you.



    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Protection, not block, how many times do I have to make this clear? If I hide Person Z in the tunnel and Person A sends in orders to kill Person Z that night, there will be narration. If I hide Person A in the tunnel, thus preventing him from doing anything else, there will be no narration.
    Again, you're missing the boat on my argument. The point was, there should have at some point been a writeup of a successful block becaus there's been so many kills.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Secondly, there was a narration of a protection in the thread - it just wasn't successful for whatever reason. Again, I refer you to ATPG's murder description.
    Indeed there was an old man. However, you'll have to excuse me as I suspend disbelief that you have no idea why it wasn't "successful".

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Thirdly, the "COP OUT" bit. Let me guide you through my thought process yesterday. I roll out of bed, groggy and tired. I skim through the thread and see that woad has been killed. I barely got any sleep that night because my roommate snores like a buzz saw. When you're in that state of mind, there isn't much filter between brain and mouth (fingers?). I'm noting regret out loud that Woadsy died when I considered protecting him the prior night. Give me a break.
    You woke up at noon?


    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    See reasons for not voting Reenk above.
    You mean the part about how you wanted Reenk lynched without having to actually vote him yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    All right, look. khaan, I don't think you're a mafioso, just horribly misguided. I don't want either of us to get lynched this round. BUT. If it comes down to that, I will shift my vote to you because I am more valuable to the town's cause.
    Well, undoubtedly, if you are indeed town, you are more valuable than me. I don't think you are town, however.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Lastly, I ask the town: What are your reasons for doubting me? Do you truly doubt my role, question its alignment, and think it's safe to lynch a role blocker (a doctor and role blocker for God's sake!) just out of precaution, or do you do this just because it's me? Just because I am the role blocker, as opposed to someone like glyphz, or Tevash? Think on that, folks. I am pro-town through and through.
    Your behavior and voting patterns tell me otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by YLC View Post
    NO, we don't, but Khaan only bothered to do so when I pushed the issue - it's as if he's not helping the town willingly. He is a veteran mafia player, and yet he willingly lurks when he knows his analysis could have been more helpful in earlier rounds? Something smells...
    I repeat. If I am scum, WHY DID I NOT SAVE MY HIDE, INSTEAD LEAVING MY FATE UP TO A COIN FLIP? WHY DID I NOT VOTE SIGURD? Because I'm an expendable townsperson.
    Last edited by seireikhaan; 01-19-2009 at 21:32.
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