The Scourge of Ephesus [Concluded]

[TinCow]

Interesting ideas, GH. I disagree with two of your theories.

1) The two 'Mexican standoff' situations were two people submitting orders to attack each other.

Night 5 Standoff:

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A man was hiding in the shadows when he saw his target slowly walking into the Odeion.

He jumped out of his hiding spot.

To his surprise, the target wasn't surprised.

"I'm not so easy to kill, you fool!"

The target kicked the attacker on his right knee. A fist in his face put him down. Another kick on his right hand and the silenced gun was floating through the air.

The target took some distance, allowing the attacker to get up again.

"You're good. Very good," the attacker said, nodding respectfully to his target.

He then quickly turned around, picked up his gun and ran away, yelling:

"But you won't be so lucky next time!"

"Next time... Next time you die..." the target said.

Night 7 Standoff:

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A man was walking in the vicinity of the ancient temple of Artemis.

He saw a shadow near a pillar and quickly jumped aside, drawing his .44 Magnum.

The man in the shadows was pointing his silenced gun at his target while he was staring at the .44 Magnum.

"Stalemate," I guess, the target said, cold as ice.

"So it seems," his attacker answered.

Both put away their guns and left the scene.

Notice in both of these that the person hiding in the shadows is specifically described as "attacker" and the other person is specifically described as "target." This looks very much like the "attacker" is ambushing that "target" but the target cannot be killed due to skill or luck. This is similar to the previous game, when Sigurd (mafioso) was attacked by another mafioso and survived due to the abilities of his role. In such a situation, the attacker would know the target's identity, but not the other way around.

In reviewing this, I also noticed something that I had missed before. On Night 5, the attacker "picked up his gun and ran away." This was earlier described as a silenced pistol. In the Day 6 write-up, the old man (you) suddenly whips out a silenced gun to execute the lynch. I had previously assumed that it was obtained on Night 5 after being dropped. Now, thanks to being focused on these actions more, it seems clear it was not possible for you to have gotten the gun on N5.

So, GH, how do you explain your ability to suddenly produce a silenced pistol during the D6 lynch? Andres does not include details like this for no reason. If you obtained it through innocent means, it should be somewhere in one of the write-ups, but I cannot find it. If you did not obtain it through one of the write-ups, then it's likely that it belongs to you and you are a killer in some manner.

2) Sigurd is not Manfredo or the athletic man?

This is absurd reasoning on your part, and smacks of an attempt to discredit him. First, you claim that shlin or w&f could have been the athletic man. Yet this does not explain why the athletic man did not execute the lynch himself on D5, nor why he was so surprised by the lynching. It seems very specific to me that Sigurd was the athletic man. In addition, Sigurd hasn't exactly been very active in this game. Yet he managed to be the first person to ever mention that the athletic man was a vigilante and then managed to slip in a suggestion that the vigilante was pro-town. This is not a coincidence. Sigurd was planting ideas about the vigilante role for future use, probably if he decided to reveal.

Indeed, in re-reading Sigurd's posts once again, while he did support you early on, his posts turn heavily against you as the game progressed. I omitted mentioning these to see how you would respond, and you simply accepted them as I stated them. I actually now believe that it is YOU that Sigurd wants to be lynched, not CountArach. His attack on CountArach was a one-off thing, while he kept coming back to you over and over again, with increasing frequency as the game went on.

I also did not give you a blank slate of innocence in my analysis posts, yet your happily cite and gobble up all of the 'GH is good' bits that I wrote, while completely ignoring everything scumtastic about yourself. This does not seem like the actions of a good townie to me. Combined with my revelation that you couldn't have gotten the silenced pistol on N5, my opinion of you has drastically changed.

I apologize to everyone for the 180 I'm pulling here, but GH's response, especially about Sigurd, just doesn't add up. There have been fishy things about GH from the start, and instead of being resolved and making sense, they just keep adding up and getting less consistent. Something is wrong about GH's role, and that kind of thing is never good for the town.

I heavily recommend lynching GH immediately.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just a note to everybody that I am forming a defense, although it will take some time.

[glyphz]

Okay, I'm being more open now about the possibility of GH being scum, esp. this 'gun out of nowhere' case. However, the protect/block ability is the only thing that can thwart a killer's kill order, and gives town more time and lynch chances (correct me if I'm not right here). If we are to lynch him I suggest later rather than now, especially since there's still at least 2 killers out there.

But, if we can prove that GH is coordinating his night actions w/ murders, then I'm game on lynching him right now.
edit: em attempting to look into the matter.

[TinCow]

The main reason for my originally saying GH was probably innocent was his confirmed night abilities. He has proven that he can bring two people per night to a secret chamber and bore them to sleep. We know this and it has been confirmed. However, what we do not know is exactly what goes on when GH puts these people to sleep.

GH claims that this is a role block AND protection role. Yet there have been two attacks on people that GH was supposed to be protecting at night. The first attack completely succeeded and ATPG was killed. The second attack (Seamus) seems to have been completely unaffected by GH's actions whatsoever. Thus, GH is lying about his ability to protect people.

So, what could he be doing? One option is that he is a mafia detective. He snags two people at night, bores them to sleep, then rifles through their belongings looking for something. This type of action would be useless without the ability to kill, which GH may or may not have. However, what if GH has a partner? Or, better yet, what if GH only needs to find and kill a single person?

Let's take a look at something else in the write-ups that no one has touched on before. This is from Night 4:

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A shady figure strided over the sands of the theater.

He looked around him and noticed the enveloppe.

The man picked it up and read the short note inside it.

He grinned and walked away, calmly.

This is not just for color, something happened here. Someone put something in the envelope and dropped it for another person to pick up. What goes into an envelope? A letter. Letters have writing on them. Writing is information. This was an information drop. Could this be the result of GH locating a good target and then communicating the identity of that target to his partner? Is it a coincidence that the 'Mexican Standoff' attacks start the following night?

There's more as well. GH's character is obviously very concerned about what is going on with the statues. He is upset when a statue is destroyed and he leads people at night to a secret chamber. This is significant, and it seems very heavily connected to the role that was destroying the statues and which now seems to be manifesting as some kind of evil spirit who possessed Seamus last night. Yet, GH's claimed role contains NO information of any kind about any of this stuff:

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The Guide

You are the guide, mentioned in the opening scene.

You have a perfect knowledge of the Ancient City of Ephesus.

Each night, you are allowed to protect two players. When you do so, you’ll hide them in the secret tunnel between the ancient library and the ancient brothel. When you protect a player, you’ll also block his/her actions for that night.

Each night, you have to pm me the names of the people you’re going to protect. Your pm has to reach me before the night ends.

Assination attempts on you might fail under certain circumstances.

Good luck!

This seems wrong. The way his role is written, he should have some major part in this supernatural skullduggery that is going on, yet the role PM he produced has nothing whatsoever. Look at this game, look at the setting, look at the write-ups. There is essentially no likelihood whatsoever that there are any plain old vanilla roles here, yet GH is claiming a role that simply blocks and protects. Not only does this not fit into the game as it is written, he can't even protect well, as conclusively shown by ATPG's death. It seems very likely that GH has heavily modified his own role PM and is faking what he is doing.

Indeed, I now doubt GH's claim that he can even block people. I bet he does nothing of the sort. I bet GH added that so that he could 'block' his mafioso partner and clear them of any wrongdoing. I think that if we look at who GH has 'blocked' we will find his partner.

This is who he has 'blocked':
Night 1: Sigurd (lynched) and Quintus (killed)
Night 2: Reenk (killed) and Tevash (lynched)
Night 3: Seamus and shlin (killed).
Night 4: ATPG (killed) and boudica.
Night 5: Sigurd (lynched) and boudica.
Night 6: YLC and Beefy.
Night 7: Seamus and glyphz.

So, of all those 'blocked', only Seamus, boudica, YLC, Beefy, and glyphz are still alive. Of these, only two, Seamus and boudica, have been 'blocked' twice. Interesting, especially given the most recent GH/Seamus evidence they so kindly provided.

The Night 7 results are posted at 16:51 EST. At 16:52 (one minute later) GH posts his 'success' claim, but it take him until 16:56 (four full minutes later) to post the results PM. GH's "Score!" post indicates that he 'knows' the protection worked. However, the write-up description reads like Seamus wasn't protected at all. So, if GH knew a protection worked, he read it in a results PM. So, he had this PM and was able to read it and celebrate about it within ONE MINUTE of the night results being posted, but it then took him another FOUR MINUTES to copy and paste the results PM? No way, those four minutes was him fabricating a results PM or double-checking a previous forgery for errors.

Seamus then conveniently busts out with this gem saying that GH told him he was going to be protected THREE MINUTES before Andres posted they night results. Why in the world would GH ever disclose this information? First, GH could never know the exact moment when Andres would precisely post the night results, so there is no way he could have properly timed this thing to get there before it was too late for Seamus to change his own night orders. Second, there's no reason whatsoever to inform Seamus beforehand. The only reason to do so would be to prove to Seamus that he's the person who's doing the protecting/blocking, but that's the one thing that absolutely everyone in this game has already accepted! The thing that was in doubt was whether GH's actions were effective, not whether he could do them, and GH didn't need to disclose his night actions to someone beforehand to prove their effectiveness. GH is extremely smart. He would not have disclosed this info to Seamus unless it was crucial for his survival, and in this case it was not.

GH is some kind of mafioso and Seamus is his partner. Lynch them both.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, I'll get to this latest bit in my defense as well.

[TinCow]

Apologies for hammering you like this in multiple posts. I know it's hard to respond to and irksome. It's the result of stream-of-consciousness posting which I've been doing for the last 24 hours. I will try and reign myself in and provide all my arguments in a single post in the future. Again, sorry for the hassle caused by my posting format.

[GeneralHankerchief]

On Sigurd:

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First of all, let me just say that in my analysis, I did not reread Sigurd's posts. I mainly focused on Andres's writeups and the the possible connections focused on each of them. However, since your attack on me is pretty much focused off of Sigurd's reasoning, I went back and looked at all of his posts.

Let's go into this keeping in mind that you have two beliefs: That Sigurd is a pro-town power role, and that he has been pointing to me for a while now. My beliefs regarding Sigurd are that he's either a plain townie or a villain; I'm not sure of which.

Sorry about the late participation gents and lady,
Due to org database failure I was not able to participate yesterday.

Having a quick look at the game development, I must say that Askthepizzaguy, Tincow and the Reinkmaster is deliberately wanting attention.
I don't know what to make of it yet.

One thing I am sure of is when the Reinkmaster says he has a role, he usually does.
He has pointed to Tevashzat and accused him of being Mafioso. I can't see that Tevash has countered this allegation.
I also notice that Yoyoma is deliberately acting a tourist and needs to be checked out by any investigator in the game. Same with White_eyes?

I am not a follower of paranoia and getting rid of players based on previous games. Getting TinCow for his previous actions in the first round is just mean. True, he has put himself in the spotlight with his opening remarks, but Reeink claims a powerful role and names Tevashzat as a Mafioso.

Why not act on this? This would be the logic thing in a first round
(BTW.. why not show support for your own allegations Reeink?).

vote:Tevashzat

Summary: Sigurd's first post after the game has started. He notes his absence, and then diving into the Reenk/Tevash argument, takes Reenk's side and votes Tevash.
Context: As Sigurd focused his argument on two people who have not been alive for a long time, this post means little to our current discussion.

I am still interested by what the Reenkster has up his sleeve.
He talks about primary and secondary objectives and that he has completed his secondary objective.
He also claims that he was blocked in a round with no kills ... Does that mean he killed on night 1?

Looking at the writeups it could seem that Ares was killed by Günner and Fehrad depending on how much influence the killers have on their orders.
Why did they dig up the corpse after killing him in the first round?

Maybe Reeink Roink needs to get Tevashzat lynhced to reach a objective?
If that is the case I am game. Anythingto foil the plans of the mafia.
vote:Tevashzat

Summary: Two days later, he pops into the thread again. He makes a comment on the writeups, and then votes Tevash again.
Context: Slightly more important than the first post because he talked about the writeups. However, he mentions nothing about an athletic man, vigilante, etc. If you side with TinCow, it could mean that he's just trying to make heads and tails of things in the thread. If you side with me, it could mean that he's just doing his job as a townie and pointing things out/using it to serve as confusion.

Yeah I am definitely here... while working mind you (need to read most of the posts in here, which might be beneficial later in the game).

Your case against the General seems to be spot on. I am eager to hear his reply. I have also noticed that he no longer complains about not being picked as mafioso like he did in Midgard II. I am thinking that he finally received one in one of the games he plays.
He did say in the other game (Golden rule) that he will take a look at Ephesus later today. He usually throws a romp if we group our votes against him and if he is mafia.

It is however a bit early in the game IMO for any lengthy analysis.
Personally I would vote off YLC for even implying to have the life of RR in his hands. But let's try yours and TinCow's theory first. GH it is.

vote:GeneralHankiechief

Summary: Two more days later, after ATPG has just posted his long case against me, before I've had a chance to respond/reveal. His reasoning has already been discussed at length.
Context: Okay TC, you said that Sigurd was pointing at CA and then said he moved on to me. Now, while I write this I haven't looked at his later posts yet, but so far this doesn't seem to be the truth. Also of note, he flat-out says that YLC should be lynched. This goes well with my theory - don't forget about this when, in the future, you base your vote off what Sigurd said about him suggesting we vote people who he's accused in the past.

Woah ...

Sorry about not participating at a crucial point in the game yesterday.

Good to see others making sure that GH was not lynched. I too got an obscure PM from Andres on the first night about listening to a boring old man.
I didn't know what to make of it, but now I know.

Summary: He apologizes for not being online to unvote me and confirms my role.
Context: Not much. In this post he definitely believes in me.

I had to quickly read over the thread again to freshen up on things.
The night reports from Andres were particularly interesting (hard to find without a separate thread or links in the OP).

Night one #102
Night two #259
Night three #317
Night four #428

On the first night there was only one kill by a silenced gun. There is also something about a hysterical man and blades.

Second night has no kills, but yet again the hysterical man whet stoning a sword which is incidentally dropped and later picked up by the athletic man. Also, he seems to talk to someone or is schizophrenic. Two men digging up the graves of the dead looking for something and lose a gun which is later picked up by the athletic man.

Third night had three kills. Hysterical man destroys the statue of Atemis.
The shadow kills RR accusing him of seeking a package.
Two kills by men with silenced guns.

Fourth night had one kill. No mention of the hysterical man. A new character (shady figure) finds an envelope. Two dark figures dig up the graves of the dead.
The shadow kills pizzaguy implying some shady business going on.

My initial thought after reading the night reports is that we are possibly dealing with several active night roles. I have coloured them based on alignment. Neutral (green) until we can determine if they are good or bad for town.

Night one:
1 gun killer
1 crazy guy.

Night two
2 guys (digging up bodies)
1 crazy guy
1 companion of crazy guy

Night three
1 crazy guy
1 shadow killer
2 gun killers

Night four
1 shady guy
1 shadow killer
2 guys (digging up bodies)


All in all 8 characters.

I suspect however that the two gun killers and the grave diggers are the same. They are taking every other night off to dig up the bodies they shot the night before. They are obviously looking for something inside the bodies and need to kill them in order to be able to check them.

This brings us down to 6 characters.
We know that GH is the old guy and that the athletic guy has a sword and a gun. Could it be that the athletic guy is the shadow killer?
The total should then be around 7 characters.

Crazy guy and apprentice = Bernard and Juliette
2 guys with guns and showels = Günner and Fehrad
Shadow killer = Manfredo
Shady guy = secret role…
Old blocker guy (GH)

We also suspect that RR, Tevash and pizzaguy possibly had roles. But there were 2 diggers on night 4 which according to my theory counts for both Günner and Fehrad being alive.
It could also mean that even if we did kill/lynch bad guys, the bad guys are recruiting.
Could it be that YLC is the shadow killer?

My vote this round goes to CountArach. He was quite active in the first part of this game, but has since dropped off the planet. He mentioned a hectic week at work, but his initial analysis makes me suspect he is in the informed minority. He called Bernard a Godfather type. I can’t see where he would get that idea.

Vote: CountArach.

Summary: Here we go, Sigurd's main analysis post. I'll admit I haven't seen this for a while. Again, he tries to make sense of the writeups. I can't really fault him for this, as it's what most of us have been doing now in the later rounds. If you believe TC, Sigurd could be hinting toward his role here.
Context: If Sigurd is Manfredo/vigilante/shadow killer, would he make such a blatant suggestion saying as much? Here he votes CA with an out-of-the-blue reasoning after a lengthy analysis that seemed to be going elsewhere. I would ask how he would know CA's role if he was the Vig, but since you, TC, now think he was going after me, how would he know my alignment if he was the Vig? It's my opinion that he either didn't find anything concrete to go with in the analysis and voted based off thread behavior, or that he was again trying to fool us.

I hope there are more than two play styles to my name. I try to act a little differently in every game I am in. However, as you point out, my post count is low. I am in more than one game this time. One reason is trying to be the responsible AM. Ya know, to give support to the games and their hosts. This is a new experience for me and I find it is stretching my capability.
I suspected you had a role in this game as did pizzaguy and hewas right. A GH without a role usually makes more noise. I would have unvoted you had I been on.

I might be a candidate, but you and the rest of us needs to compare what we know to what we learn trough the night reports.
You protected me and Quintus on the first night and me and boudica this night.

On the first night there was only one kill, most likely by one of the mafia. Compared to the other nights we lack two killers; the shadow vigilante and the other mafioso.
This night lacked only the shadow vigilante. There was the murder of Quintus, which would put the suspicion on me for being the other mafia that were blocked on night one.
This last night had two attempts with guns. I suspect that YLC is the vigilante aka the athletic man and that he possibly was attacked this night by the second mafioso. YLC's night action was canceled as he dodged the killer. You mentioned something about a report from Andres and that it said nothing of value. Do you suspect it will say something important if you in fact do investigate a killer?

I will not retaliate against you since your role is by far more valuable for the town than my vanilla townie role. I can do my analysis dead as alive. Being killed by mafia is the best option since I will be more or less confirmed innocent.
I do however question the decision of not even trying to take you out as you are a threat to any bad guy in this game. Are you communicating with players outside this game? Do you discuss with others your choice of blocks? Have you learned that attempts have been made on the players you protect?

We need to figure out if the athletic man/shadow killer, which I think is YLC, is bad for town. Up until now he has killed twice. Does he investigate on the nights he is not killing? that would count for night one and two and five.
I firmly believe that the two gun killers are very much alive as can be seen in last night's report.
Glyphz has a point. Seireikhaan is not active at all in this game and he was inactive, I think, before he started his game.
I get the feeling he is intentionally keeping a low profile. Is he hiding a pro-town role or a mafia role?
vote: seireikhaan

Summary: Sigurd's main defense to my attack. Parts of this have also been discussed at length. Again, he points to trying to figure things out through the night reports. Pretty consistent behavior.
Context: I pointed this out in my initial analysis post but you didn't mention it in your follow-up, TC. He specifically reiterated that he was a townie, and that he believed me. These two beliefs and his actions don't add up if he's a power pro-town role. Finally, once again, he points to YLC but votes elsewhere.

Yet, you made a veiled threat to Reeink Roink about an ability to end his life via vote or some night ability. Was this just a bluff?

Summary: YLC responds to Sigurd's grilling of him and says he's just a townie. Sigurd grills him some more.
Context: As my high school gym teacher used to say, "thimk".

Care to explain? Is this an ability you have in this game, or am I just not able to interpret what you mean. Drilling someone during the night ... ehm, I get a disturbing picture here -

Summary: More grilling. For the record, the post that prompted this one is here.
Context: Duh.

Sorry it was not common to me...
But my question remains unanswered; is the vigilante bad for town?
It seems he got rid of some shady players (no offense RR and Pizza). That Pizza has opted to drop out of the discussion should be some basis to indicate a pro-town alignment for the vigilante. RR will continue to seed doubts and smokescreens if he was a bad guy and would continue to be helpful if he was pro town.

Summary: Sigurd's final salvo in the YLC thing. Here, he suggests that the Vig might not be bad for the town.
Context: You score a point here. But it could also just be Sigurd being a good townie and thinking out loud.

I have checked the game in question. I must admit I didn't remember it when I made my comments. I stand corrected. I made an erroneous evaluation of your track record.

Yes I agreed with pizzaguy, thinking Andres would have favourized you as mafioso. It had been suficient time since your last comments of not being a mafioso. My brain told me that Andres could have given you a sinister role.

Still... I would hold on to my claim that I can't be mafia. The mafia hits were all in the night report. And no block of a killer were mentioned there. You are lynching an innocent with three votes. I am more suspicious of seireikhann now that he has opted to abstain as if waiting to cast the final vote on me should he tie.

[edit]: Wait.. am I in the wrong about the tally? I have not kept one this round.

Summary: Sigurd continues to defend himself against me. Again, discussed at length - I didn't buy that he just forgot about Spirit Mafia.
Context: Looking at the writeups now, I'm probably leaning towards Sigurd more being a plain townie than a mafioso. BUT. He still hasn't turned against me as TC claims.

***Sigurd's next post is a tally. There is nothing of consequence.***

You are not exactly in danger of being lynched just yet. But I am and would welcome any theories you might have. Why do you suspect Yoyoma is mafia?

Summary: The very next post after his tally, Sigurd starts questioning IK and gives him a chance to explain himself.
Context: This could be another potential person on the watch list that we're looking for. Again, he's still not turning on me.

I am never lucky with dice...

But you are wrong. You should know better. The mafia can opt for not killing and make false clues such as this to slip under the radar. You have used it yourself in other games.
Besides Quintus is already dead.
GH said so himself... He was waiting for the feedback PM before making the vote. When it did not reveal anything he voted me based on gut feeling.

Seireikhaan is probably innocent. Should he survive I would let him live. Nobody plays that balsy if they are mafia.

Summary: This was back when you believed me innocent, saying that we should focus on Quintus, boudica, and Sigurd. Sigurd's defense was that the mafia could intentionally mess with writeups and that you should know better.
Context: I suppose a case could be made that this post signals he's starting to doubt me, but I find it more likely that he's just trying not to get lynched. Plus, he still never said anything against me.

Yet no failed attempts were narrated as promised. Either a) GH has not blocked a mafia at all or b) He blocked the mafia on the day the mafia chose to not kill.

But the mafia has not got rid of the blocker yet and they had the chance last night. Why? I suspect something fishy.

Summary: Sigurd points out my failues (addressed in my previous analysis post) and says something's fishy.
Context: Perhaps he could be doubting me here. But the reason for my continued survival has already been discussed. In addition, he's still said nothing against me.

Ok... if this is true, then I must be the shadow killer as this was the only missing role on both nights.
There was a confirmed kill and a foiled kill where two power roles were involved. Yet none of you compared this to the blocking results... Fishy I tell you.

Summary: I clear things up as to what happens when I block people, Sigurd responds.
Context: Your usual attack, my usual defense. "Fishy" could mean anything.

edit.. I am dead and can't reveal.

Summary: I didn't see what was originally here. Apparently, you did, and said that he suggested lynching those he previously already accused.
Context: See next post.

I guess this needs an answer.
According to Andres I did no wrong. I believed however that I was breaking the sportsmanship rule.

For clarification:

Summary: (note: a lot of quoted material is missing from this post). Sigurd clarifies what was going on.
Context: I believe that Sigurd edited it out for the reasons he stated in the PM. Not because of a secret role or anything.

CONCLUSION: I believe Sigurd to be nothing more than a townie who is suggesting that we lynch YLC. Another point I brought up in my previous analysis that you didn't address is Andres hinting that the athletic man's time as lynch leader was nearing an end before Sigurd was lynched.

On the gun thing:

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I know this is a frustratingly bad defense, but the truth is "I don't know." I don't know how I got the gun. Everything I have ever said in this entire thread is the pure truth. And the truth is, I know as little as you guys do. All I do at night is send in my choices, forward them to Seamus (more on this later), and get my response PMs from Andres, which I copy word-for-word for you guys.

I don't know, but I do have a suggestion, which I've already repeated: It's possible that I now hold the gun simply because I'm now in charge of the lynches. This is the only thing I can think of.

Everything I have learned in this game, I have divulged to all of you. I'm not hiding any secret information whatsoever. I do not have any sinister motives. I do not have any goals that conflict in any way with any of the town's. I don't know anything about the statues. I don't know anything about the envelope. I don't know anything about the gun. I don't know anything about the architectual or Biblical references. All I know is who I protect and how successful I am at it. Believe what you want, but this is the honest truth.

On Seamus and timings:

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First of all, this defense is going to be a *#%! of a lot better than the last one. However, as per the above, I don't know about Seamus's dream. I can only assume that it meant he was protected since I did protect him that night.

I have been informing Seamus (and only Seamus) of my choices for a couple of nights now, after I blocked him and there were still three kills. I did this as a backup plan; in case I was killed, he would still be able to pass on my final choice of blocks to you all. I realize now, with it being evident that the mafia have no plans to kill me whatsoever, that this is a waste but I'm still doing it in the off chance that I do die.

I generally send in my orders very early on in the night phase, as Andres ends the day at a convenient time for me. HOWEVER. I do not inform Seamus of my choices until much later on in the phase, in the extremely remote chance that he is mafia. If this is the case, then he and his team would still have very little time to react and change things up.

Also, this is kind of random but I didn't know anywhere else to fit this, but another reason I had an insurance policy was if I died and Seamus said nothing in the thread, then I knew he was mafia.

As for the timings of the N7 writeups, I saw that Andres had posted in the thread and quickly skimmed it. I saw Seamus's name in bold, and excited (because this was the first time I was really sure I was going to thwart a hit, as I've already discussed), scrolled down to the "Still alive" list where his name was there. I put two and two together, not reading into the specifics until later.

I was out all day yesterday until late afternoon because of the inauguration. When I got back, I made it a priority to get on the .Org and PM Seamus with my protections because, while I had already sent in my orders, I didn't let Seamus know. It wasn't an elaborate, intricately-timed plan on my part. It was simply me getting online in the nick of time.

I think that's everything. I'd like to re-iterate that everything I've ever said in this thread has been nothing but the truth, and I have only the town's best interests at heart. If you follow the path that TinCow has suggested and lynch me and Seamus, I can guarantee you that the town will lose this game. Badly.