The Scourge of Ephesus [Concluded]

[ULC]

Vote: YLC

I honestly don't remember ever seeing those PMs before in this thread (Have you posted them prior to this GH?). Personally I believe they are completely legitimate and real proof that YLC does not have the best interests of the town at heart.

I still don't buy the whole Role-blocker is mafia stuff.

Really now? At what point did I not have the towns "best interests" at heart? And you suddenly jump on me right along with GH? Oh, how convenient, An easy 2 vote lynch. Nonetheless, my vote stays on GH.

[CountArach]

Really now? At what point did I not have the towns "best interests" at heart? And you suddenly jump on me right along with GH? Oh, how convenient, An easy 2 vote lynch. Nonetheless, my vote stays on GH.

Errr.... no...

If I wanted the easy lynch I would have voted for GH, who is well ahead of you in votes. I genuinely believe that trying to guide the blocker is scummy - you could be trying to guide them away from yourself and a scumbuddy.

[ULC]

Errr.... no...

If I wanted the easy lynch I would have voted for GH, who is well ahead of you in votes. I genuinely believe that trying to guide the blocker is scummy - you could be trying to guide them away from yourself and a scumbuddy.

Sorry, I am being lazy today, and I am also trying to do a write-up for my mafia game, so I will conceded that GH has (more?) votes then me. Vote for me then, I can then pay less attention to this game until Andres finalizes the write up - I have tons of other things (Mafia game hosting, LotR, Diplomacy, Writing, College, Combat Arms, etc.) to occupy me, and is the main reason I have not been very busy in the thread.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Despite all the attacks I've undergone this round, I think YLC is the only one who's lodged a vote against me, funnily enough.

[TinCow]

Despite all the attacks I've undergone this round, I think YLC is the only one who's lodged a vote against me, funnily enough.

Yeah, that's my fault for not thinking the game through enough and for making a U-turn on you. There just wasn't enough time left in this day phase for everyone to get back on and read my absurdly long posts. However, I'd be preparing for a lot of heat tomorrow if I were you.

[Andres]

Voting concluded.

Stand by for execution.

[Andres]

The Scourge of Ephesus - Day 7 - Conclusion



Ephesus - The Prytaneion - 8.00 pm

The tourists started to discuss.

Some voices could be heard whispering in the air: “Do not lynch him, I strongly urge you to lynch that other guy, nonono, disregard that, lynch the guy I said you absolutely should not lynch at first…”

The tourists concerned started to yell against each other and, strangely enough, against the wind.

The other tourists seemed to pick up the sounds and started to point their finger at those named by the voices. The tourists named by the odd metallic and boo-ing voice started to sweat and they defended themselves against the accusations vigorously.

All of the sudden, Caius jumped up and he pushed aside a few tourists. He gave the old man a kick and grabbed his gun.

“I can’t take this any longer!” Caius yelled. “The horror, the killings, those sounds, the lynchings, the strange accidents. I want to get out of here!”

Caius put the gun in his mouth and fired a shot. He died instantly.

“Ok, ok, enough of this already,” an aggressive tourist said and he grabbed the gun out of Caius’ hands.

“You there,” he said, pointing the gun at CountArach. "It seems like you have the most votes."

CountArach looked very pale and his voice trembled when he said: “So it seems indeed.”

“Any last wish?” the aggressive tourist said.

“Well, I really love that local liquor they have here,” Rakı”. And I would also love to hear that popular Turkish singer one more time. What’s his name… Tarkan!”

“You really like that rubbish song?”

CountArach shrugged.

“Oh well then,” the aggressive tourist said and he took his mp3-player and gave it to CountArach.

Another tourist gave him a bottle of Rakı.

CountArach took the bottle, drank from it and pushed the play button of the mp3 player.

At the tones of Tarkan he continued emptying the bottle of Rakı.

He hardly noticed how the aggressive tourist pointed the gun at him and ended his life with a single bullet in the back of his head.

The shooter put away the gun and turned to the gathered tourists.

“Time to go to sleep.”

The old man added: “I hope this nightmare will be over now…”

“Shut up, you fool!”

The tourists walked away.

Night fell over Ephesus. Again…

***

Tally:

CountArach : 3 (Ibn-Khaldun, Lord Winter, glyphz)

YLC: 2 (GeneralHankerchief, CountArach)
Yoyoma1910 : 1 (187Beefyz)
Ibn-Khaldun : 1 (Chaotix27)
Abstain: 2 (Yoyoma, Seamus)

Not voting: 3 (boudica, CountArach, Caius)

***

Alive (10)

boudica
GeneralHankerchief
187Beefyz
Chaotix27
YLC
Yoyoma1910
Ibn-Khaldun
Lord Winter
Glyphz
Seamus Fermanagh

Killed (9) :

777Ares777
TheFlax
White_Eyes :D
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Quintus.JC
woad&fangs
shlin28
El Diablo

Lynched (7) :

TinCow
Tevashzat
FactionHeir
Jolt
Sigurd
seireikhaan
CountArach

WoG/Suicide (4):
Rythmic
Ignoramus
Tiberius of the Drake
Caius

It's now night. Night will last for +/- 23 hours.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, the aggressive tourist directing the lynch does help out my theory of shifting lynch directors that have nothing to do with death.

[CountArach]

Nice job bandwagoning a townie...

[Reenk Roink]

Well, the aggressive tourist directing the lynch does help out my theory of shifting lynch directors that have nothing to do with death.

Will you please die?

Honestly, if I was still alive, I would have investigated GH by now, and even if he was innocent (unlikely) I would have killed him because of Reenkness 201...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Will you please die?

No.

[Beefy187]

No.

Best come back ever

[White_eyes:D]

Will you please die?

Honestly, if I was still alive, I would have investigated GH by now, and even if he was innocent (unlikely) I would have killed him because of Reenkness 201...

No, way is GH innocent he had too much time to role-block everyone and not come up with something......Town is eating out of his hand....

[GeneralHankerchief]

No, way is GH innocent he had too much time to role-block everyone and not come up with something......Town is eating out of his hand....

Oh yeah, every single round I fight off the vultures and barely survive a lynch, of course they're eating out of my hand.

And I already explained, there are too many variations on nighttime activities for anyone to conclusively know how successful I've been.

[TinCow]

And I already explained, there are too many variations on nighttime activities for anyone to conclusively know how successful I've been.

Really? Your total inability to do anything to keep ATPG alive seems pretty conclusive to me. Or are you still choosing to ignore that little flaw in your story?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Dude, I'm as clueless as you.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Tincow:

GH began pm'ing me with the names of those receiving his attentions on a given night at the time he indicates. His stated reason was to have me able (providing I was not myself killed) to share those names with the town should he be killed. GH claimed to have posted the same PM to Andres as to me so that Andres would be aware it was legit for me to refer to it. The names were always provided to me in advance of Andres posting.

I am still at a loss to explain the beast image at my near-killing or the link to John the Divine. The only link between a beast and St. John is the Apocalypto (Revelations)....and I'm not sure where to take that one.

I cannot confirm GH's intent in sending me the PM info, only the intention he stated to me.

Here is the text of Andres' PM to me following N7.

Ephesus - N 7

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

You were wandering around the temple of Artemis.

Something appeared and scared the out of you.

"What was that?" you wonder. "It didn't seem... human..."

Be afraid, tourist, be very afraid...

***

An old man calms you down and takes you with him. He wants to show you something, he says.

He takes you to a secret hiding place and starts talking to you. He tells you several stories. They are boring and you fall asleep.

Andres.

In retrospect, the *** DOES imply that GH's taking me to a hiding place did NOT protect me from the supernatural event.

I'm still at a loss to explain all of this.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Really? Your total inability to do anything to keep ATPG alive seems pretty conclusive to me. Or are you still choosing to ignore that little flaw in your story?

For the love of Andres, it's time to put a stop to GeneralHankerchief.


I have done a serious analysis of the game. People, I KNOW you just endured a whole lot of analysis. Please be patient and listen to mine, I beg of thee.

In spoilers for neatness.

My mafia game analysis system has revealed the following players are suspect:

GeneralHankerchief: Suspect Number One

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Scummy behavior: Asks to ignore Reenk Roink, Veiled threat against me post 383, supposed defense of me failed, still alive, excessive post edits post 600, post 616 stalling, 626 scummy post, says he's not a townie, claims he is town's greatest asset (651), claims he is the victim of a conspiracy, questions Askthepizzaguy's methods (I know I am townie, and he's far too dismissive of me anyway), Doom and Gloom posts, highly defensive, lots of non-useful posts, excuses, point-by-point rebuttals.

He's failed to block the mafia out of how many attempts???? He's had his chance, he's failed us, he's mislead us, and he should have been dead a LONG TIME AGO!!!!

Chaotix: Suspect Number Two

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Scummy behavior: He's been one of the deciding votes in small, bad lynches, asked people to ignore me, he's been hypocritical, he's bandwagonned, he votes for veteran players with weak reasoning, gives lots of excuses for not being a better player, votes with no reasons behind it often.

I have played with him in the past. This is a bad performance in comparison to previous. He's done nothing helpful, and plenty to hurt us. He's given the worst performance I've ever seen, and he meets the criteria of my mafia scum behavior pattern (50 search parameters, with 10 parameters WAY above baseline, and NO EXAMPLES of really useful townie behavior.

LYNCH HIM.

Boudica: Suspect Number Three

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

She never followed through with any in-depth look at the thread, WHICH SHE PROMISED. she has contributed nothing positive and has been responsible for close executions. She is hypocritical, doom and gloomy, bandwagonny, Lurking, Lurking, Lurking, and only shows up to post when someone accuses her!!!

She is no one that town needs alive anymore. She can't hit the broad side of a barn when lynching mafia, and she's done nothing positive at all. GH defended her. She is anti-seireikhaan and anti-Jolt, and constantly gives excuses for not contributing more.

She is a top suspect, along with her crony GH.

187Beefyz: Suspect Number Four:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Beefy187 gives too many excuse posts instead of contributing positively, he voted me twice for no reason at the beginning of the game after I've demonstrated superior townie abilities, he's overly defensive, overuse of smileys, he lurks, he has several questionable posts "hard to post in this game" 599 Apologetic 454. Defends YLC with weak reasoning, blindly trusts GH! Calls for Kommodus-like player to come save town.

Well Kommodus is back, and he's come for your head, Beefy. A bad performance given your previous games. You're hardly ever mafia, and in this case, you're an abysmal townie at best.

Beefy can redeem himself in my eyes by working with the better townies to kill the suspects above him. Otherwise, I deem him useless (in this game. nothing personal Beefy. Nothing personal ANYONE. I loves you all!)

Borderline:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

YLC: Borderline. He has both pro-town and anti-town results in the analysis, but it's far too weighted to the mafia side. I don't trust him, and I doubt he will work with us to get the top suspects.

Yoyoma: Lurker, borderline.

Questionable but ok:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Ibn: Possible Townie, voting and not being manipulative.
Glyphz: Townie behavior: Asks reasonable questions Anti-YLC. good analysis, pays attention, good humor. Pro-Pizza post 366. Constant tallys. Woad thinks innocent.
Analysis: Probably town. Only responsible for one townie's death.

I haven't gone in depth, I only gave you the results. I wish to keep the LENGTHY reasons why each person is scummy, borderline, and townie to myself. believe or disbelieve, it's your choice.

TinCow is right, GH needs to die.


The above analysis is pre-"recent deaths" and may be amended shortly. EDIT: Checked, and confirmed townies only were lynched. System is working so far...


GH, Chaotix, Boudica, Beefy: If you truly are townie, and want to prove it to me, don't vote anymore except for the other three.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dude, I'm as clueless as you.

From your votes which failed to nab the baddies, from your misleading analyses so far, from your failure to block the mafia properly after all this time, from the fact that you're still alive, I'd say that you are correct. Had you nailed one mafia so far, I might be able to believe you. If your hands were clean, I might. If you agreed with anything I've said so far... If, if, if.

I wish death upon you in this game. Join me in the netherworld, my friend.

[Andres]

Also, I really, really hope Andres does a commentary for this game.

Eh, hm, huh...

Like the one I did for Taormina?

Lazy Andres!

[Beefy187]

I love you too ATPG.. No matter how cruel you are

-Not enough contribution

Well I tried. And this is my best..

-Voting for you twice in the beginning

First one was a random vote. One for you being in the middle of the sign up list and two because I prefer kebabs over Pizza. Second one was a resting vote until I find a better option. But I couldn't make it to change the vote because of the different time zone.

-Calls for Kommodus

I didn't call for him. I just said I miss him. Player leaving the gameroom is not a pleasant thing. Thus why I was happy for Gaius and takas return along with other vets.

-Over use of smilies

Its how I post. I don't see how that leads to mafia activities

-Lurks

My activity is yes.. rather low. But I still posted everyday. I normally only post on the morning (GMT+9) checks the gameroom. Front room. Backroom. Diplomacy. EB forum. Gameroom again. Facebook. Gameroom. Sports news. Gameroom. Study then EB. EB normally gets me to lunch. Afternoon I usually go biking for fitness, studies again, then finally gets back to gameroom. Then dinner. Then TV. If the TV is boring then gameroom.

I don't lurk. I just don't check the gameroom often after the morning sesh

-Overly defensive

Am I? I thought I got rid of that..

-Blindly trusts GH

I did get a pm on the night when GH claimed to have protected me or whatever he does. Old man telling boring story. Then I fell or sleep. That night all three kills were on I believe. Which clears me. And I cannot see how Roleblocker can also be a mafia. I've never seen such thing in other mafias before. With only couple more lynching oppotunities available, I think leaving GH gives us the best chance.

-Being a crappy townie and all

Cannot agree more. While I was thankful for the nomination in the best gameroom player, I really don't think I deserve it.

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Now that I got that done. I have to disagree with most of the things you said.

Firstly TinCow was lynched. While he makes a plausible theories, he might be mafia. He might be manipulating us.

Secondly, I havn't read all the posting before CAs lynch because I was doing other stuff. But from what I recall, three players bandwagoned CA without much reasoning. One of them is Ibn-khaldun. Yes he havn't dominated discussions. But he followed a easy bandwagon. For me that is much more scummy.

I tried. And I voted Yoyoma. Yes it was a crap theory. Yes I shouldn't have played migration campaign to Messalia and get bored and started another KH campaign, spamming Spartans before the lynch write ups. And if this is overly defensive for you, just lynch me. I have failed the town and for that, I deserve death.

EDIT: And there is no way I am helping to lynch GH or boudica.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

One of them is Ibn-khaldun. Yes he havn't dominated discussions. But he followed a easy bandwagon. For me that is much more scummy.

No, that's not scummy. I followed TC's long analysis and it seemed that CA is guilty. And bandwagoning part? It's how townies behave. I think you watch movies. In movies it takes only one person to create an angry mob to kill someone. That's how people work. Give them a good reason(or not that good, it doesn't matter) and they will lynch someone.

[Beefy187]

No, that's not scummy. I followed TC's long analysis and it seemed that CA is guilty. And bandwagoning part? It's how townies behave. I think you watch movies. In movies it takes only one person to create an angry mob to kill someone. That's how people work. Give them a good reason(or not that good, it doesn't matter) and they will lynch someone.

Shush you.. I needed something to counter him

Ill go read what actually happened now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Beefy, I am not 100% on you. That's why you're 4th on the list.

If you redeem yourself by helping the living townies get the ones above you on the list, I think we can risk it. You deserve a win as mafia anyways, right? LOL

Depending on how the chips fall, we may have to lynch you anyway. But I would encourage you to follow my advice, no matter how "cruel" I've been. You know I have great respect for you, but if you ever were mafia, your behavior this game would exemplify it, from what I know of you.

Convince me otherwise. Help town get the REAL scumbags.


EDIT: AND YOURE NOT A CRAPPY TOWNIE. This game's performance was spotty at best, but you do well elsewhere.

[Askthepizzaguy]

EDIT: And there is no way I am helping to lynch GH or boudica.

Never going after GH or Boudica???


EXPLAIN WHY PLEASE. Defending these two after their (forgive me) bad performance... what do you know, and can you prove it?

If you don't give reasons, I will be sure you're mafia.

[Beefy187]

Beefy, I am not 100% on you. That's why you're 4th on the list.

If you redeem yourself by helping the living townies get the ones above you on the list, I think we can risk it. You deserve a win as mafia anyways, right? LOL

Depending on how the chips fall, we may have to lynch you anyway. But I would encourage you to follow my advice, no matter how "cruel" I've been. You know I have great respect for you, but if you ever were mafia, your behavior this game would exemplify it, from what I know of you.

Convince me otherwise. Help town get the REAL scumbags.


EDIT: AND YOURE NOT A CRAPPY TOWNIE. This game's performance was spotty at best, but you do well elsewhere.

Well.. I have my letter of will written way back in night 4 so I'm ready to go. For the sake of the town, I really really hope I get killed rather then lynch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You won't be killed, you're a suspect. Thats why your vote counts so much.

You need to explain why you're pro-GH and pro-boudica. Without reasons, it's scummy defense of scummy people.

[Beefy187]

GH because I just can't see how role blocker can be a mafia. If GH is the old man, who loves the island then yes I can see how he gets angry for some scum destroying artifacts. Yes I can see how dirty we tourists can be. But old man, protects tourists. tells them tales about the island. That means old man loves tourists. And don't want all the bloody mess going on, and tourists choosing to avoid the little place for ever.

Sloppy. I know. If old man wants the tourists to die then why take them to secret location. Tell them boring tales then let them go un harmed?

sorry its dinner time. Ill explain more when im back

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bad Beefy.

You're repeating the old defenses of GH (not adding anything new)
You're ignoring new evidence (his lynch targets appear to all be innocent, his survival, his obscenely powerful, yet strangely ineffective skill... etc. List goes on and on.)
You're giving excuses for not contributing more.

If this pattern continues, I'm putting you higher on the list, my friend.

[ULC]

*ahem* Just interjecting here a bit with something I caught from the previous game. Manfredo, the SK/mafia last game, was able to investigate two people per night. Just a coincidence? I think not, hosts like to keep some continuity with their roles per game.