I have started an Koinon Hellenon camping which is going well, but i haven't got the infastructe to get good soldiers. So i decided to play a custom game. So when building my army i realise i have no idea what the main line infatry unit is.
First i thought of Iphikratous Hoplitai, but apparently not.
"Prior to that, even Athenai and Thebai - who were the least reluctant to accept the changes - were not eager to accept the changes and didn't begin to field the newer hoplitai in very large numbers. Some poleis such as Sparte refused to accept the new equipment, "
Okay, how about Koinon Hellenon Phalangitai then?
But the EB notes on them say some city-states started to experiment with them and they seem not to be so popular amongst the greek.
Not that either then, how about Greek Classical Hoplites?
"but the appearance of the Peltastoi made them more vulnerable than before and highlighted the shortcomings of the phalanx, and the rise of Makedonia in the north and its phalangitai, became the decline of the "classical" hoplites being fielded in large numbers. However, variants of the hoplites were succesfully adapted by various Hellenic powers, like the Ekdromoi & Thorakitai Hoplitai. And even after the wars of Alexandros and those of his successors, some poleis and smaller communities still fielded contingents of hoplitai, who were trained and fought in the same fashion as the hoplitai of old."
Apparently not those either.
Thureophoroi? No they exist between main line and skirmishers.
Thorakitai? To expensive and not used much historicly.
Thorakitai Hoplitai ? To expensive.
Questions:
1. What exactly historic would be main line infantry for a combined Koinon Hellenon (combined atheninans and sparta and some minor allies army) ally army? Every option i have seams to be hated by everyone.
2. How would a historic army look in lest say 12.5-17.5 k custom/multiplayer EB Koinon Hellenon army?
3. Why does every potential Koinon Hellenon main line unit loses to Principes? Even classical Hoplites get destroyed which i have a hard time beliving.
I am very interested to know more about Greek warfare in this period!
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