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    Default Re: How close to a realistic Seleukid army would this be?

    @ Dayve: I wish I had that sort of AI armies at times (not really). Apparently you don't get the Roman full stack of PE + EE + Triarii or full stacks consisting of 8 phalanxes of which 6 are elite and two are standard + Galatians + Heavy cav. Or (as AS against Pahlava) an army which had 10 Dahae Nobles + 6 Parhian Catas + 4 FMs (early variety). That army hurt. A LOT! Especially since all 4 FMs were 8-10 command + triple silver and above experience. I just spammed and auto calc-ed my way to victory. Lost something on the order of 4-5 full stacks of phalanxes + archers to do it but when you have a whole empire to spawn from it can be done.
    But if you've been getting the sort of stacks thrown your way that you say you have I don't blame you on restricting yourself. I'd want a challenge as well.
    Maybe its BI, but it seems my computer loves to throw elite stacks at me, and since I like to economize my armies, it tends to provide a challenge.
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    Default Re: How close to a realistic Seleukid army would this be?

    Stone walls are the best deterrant for all nomadic factions, since they're not bringing field artillery and all the horses will have to go through a gate. If you can destory their ram, you're all set. If you can't, two units of pantodapoi wll do the trick.

    There's usually some mercenery infantry tagging along, but there shouldn't be too many of those.
    Last edited by palmtree; 01-06-2009 at 03:14.

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    Default Re: How close to a realistic Seleukid army would this be?

    So this thread is old and most have probably moved on, but I have to comment...

    Quote Originally Posted by LordCurlyton View Post
    @ Dayve: I wish I had that sort of AI armies at times (not really). Apparently you don't get the Roman full stack of PE + EE + Triarii or full stacks consisting of 8 phalanxes of which 6 are elite and two are standard + Galatians + Heavy cav. Or (as AS against Pahlava) an army which had 10 Dahae Nobles + 6 Parhian Catas + 4 FMs (early variety). That army hurt. A LOT! Especially since all 4 FMs were 8-10 command + triple silver and above experience. I just spammed and auto calc-ed my way to victory. Lost something on the order of 4-5 full stacks of phalanxes + archers to do it but when you have a whole empire to spawn from it can be done.
    But if you've been getting the sort of stacks thrown your way that you say you have I don't blame you on restricting yourself. I'd want a challenge as well.
    Maybe its BI, but it seems my computer loves to throw elite stacks at me, and since I like to economize my armies, it tends to provide a challenge.
    You guys know that you CAN use cheats for the AI, right? : )

    I do it all of the time, for allies, enemies, and even the factions on the other side of the map. I'm such a realist, and a masochist, that I insist on ramming the Seleucid, Saka, and other relevant reforms through ASAP when I play as Pahlava (I always try to help Hayasdan, but about halfway through their reform, I get bored/impatient and wipe them out...), and I give those armies that make you go "oh, what the hell..." corrections and plenty of elites, and, OH YES, sometimes I definitely regret it. But I don't the epic struggles between the Seleucids and Parthians to consist of battles with a late parthian general, two grivpanvar cataphracts (the late elite), 2-3 armored horse archers (either zradha type or the dehbeds), 1 Dahae noble, 1 Dahae Rider, and 4-6 Pahlava and Saka Horse Archers fighting a Seleucid FM, 1 merc Hippeis, 1 Prodomoi, maybe 1 other weak, odd type of cavalry, a few odd archers and slingers, and a stack of FRIGGIN' PANTODAPOI NATIVE SPEARMEN!!! I don't want the First Punic War to mostly equal mish-mash stacks of Rorarii, Hastati, and samnites, with maybe 1 or 2 cavalry units, taking on another odd stack of Poeni Citizens, Iberian mercenaries (BLASHPEMY!!!), barely any cavalry units, and more mercenaries that just don't make sense. I can't take it. I'm human, ya know? I mean really, I CAN'T TAKE IT! ARGHGHGHHGHGHHG!!!

    You know what I mean?

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