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    Βασιλευς και Αυτοκρατωρ Αρχης Member Centurio Nixalsverdrus's Avatar
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    Default Adding ethnicity traits

    Hi,

    is it possible to add ethnicity traits for an ongoing campaign, like Syrios and Armenios? So that new FMs can be of a new ethnicity and not only of one of the old ones?

    At first I would take existing ones and just copy and paste them over to Makedonia, but I'm a bit anxious... the campaign date is 177BC currently.

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    Default Re: Adding ethnicity traits

    Adding new traits is not save-game compatible.
    It might be possible to edit some traits from other factions, but that might not be compatible or could cause some weirdness.


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    Default Re: Adding ethnicity traits

    Adding existing ethnicities from other factions should be okay. You may want to tweak the chances of each other ethnicity when you add, by the way.

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    Default AW: Adding ethnicity traits

    Oh thank you. I'll go and have a look and probably ask again later.

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    Default Re: Adding ethnicity traits

    Mind that in order for the ethnicity to actually have an effect on his traits, you should copy the triggers that are using the ethnicity trait too.

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    Default Re: Adding ethnicity traits

    Uff, I finally got around to dig into it. It takes always that long with me.

    I have opened export_descr_character_traits.txt and found these. So when I want to add the ethnicity "Asiatikos" to my Makedones, I have to look at this section I think?

    Am I right when I assume that the first two paragraphs are relevant to shift the ethnicity to Makedonia (marked red), and that the number (marked blue) determines the probability?

    What's the meaning of the "EthnoDetermined"-tag?

    Code:
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition FactionType macedon
              and Trait EthnoDetermined < 1
      Affects PtolemaioiAsiatikos  1  Chance  8
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_EthnoDetermined
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition FactionType macedon
              and Trait EthnoDetermined < 1
              and Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
      Affects EthnoDetermined  1  Chance  100
      Affects Xenophilia  1  Chance  65
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Vigorous
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait NaturalEnergy > 3
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  85
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  65
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  50
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  35
      Affects GoodAdministrator  1  Chance  50
      Affects Anger  1  Chance  65
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Languorous
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait NaturalEnergy < 3
      Affects NaturallySlothful  1  Chance  65
      Affects NaturallySlothful  1  Chance  35
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Charismatic
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait NaturalCharisma > 3
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  85
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  65
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  50
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  35
      Affects Liar  1  Chance  35
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Sharp
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait NaturalIntelligence > 3
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  85
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  65
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  50
      Affects GoodTrader  1  Chance  35
      Affects Scholarly  1  Chance  35
      Affects GoodAdministrator  1  Chance  50
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Optimist
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait Temperament > 3
      Affects BloodHumour  1  Chance  65
      Affects BloodHumour  1  Chance  35
      Affects ReligiousMania  1  Chance  35
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Pessimist
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait Temperament < 3
      Affects Anger  1  Chance  65
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Selfless
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait Selflessness > 3
      Affects ReligiousMania  1  Chance  65
      Affects ReligiousMania  1  Chance  35
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Selfish
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait Selflessness < 3
      Affects Epicurean  1  Chance  65
      Affects Epicurean  1  Chance  35
      Affects Corrupt  1  Chance  35
      Affects Liar  1  Chance  65
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_OfferedForMarriage_Disloyal
      WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage
        Condition Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos > 0
              and Trait Loyalty < 3
      Affects Disloyal  1  Chance  65
      Affects Disloyal  1  Chance  35
    The same goes for "OfferedForAdoption" and "LesserGeneralOfferedForAdoption" I guess?

    Then these...

    The description is to be altered in export_VnVs.txt in the text-folder, right? Does it suffice to list the excluding ethnicities here?

    Code:
    ;Trait: PtolemaioiAsiatikos
    ; o Asiatikos (1): Asiatikos  Whether Mysian, Karian, Lycian, or some other, this mans ancestors originally came from the coastal cities of Anatolia, many of which have long had contact with the Ptolemaioi. His ancestors inhabited lands that have been in contact with virtually every civilization in the Mediterranean, and he is open to many other peoples and cultures. He is a good trader and administrator as a result of this too, but often lies and falls into corruption. He is rarely loyal and rarely stoic, but more often given to religious mania, and probably has some education.
    Trait PtolemaioiAsiatikos
        Characters family
        NoGoingBackLevel 1
        AntiTraits MakedonianEpeirotes, MakedonianThessalos, MakedonianHellen, MakedonianThrakiosHellenismos, MakedonianArgeades, MakedonianHypotropos, MakedonianMesogaios, MakedonianMakedon
        Level Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos
             Description Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_desc
             EffectsDescription Ptolemaioi_Asiatikos_effects_desc
             Threshold 1
             Effect Influence -1
    Last edited by Centurio Nixalsverdrus; 09-21-2009 at 02:54.

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    Default Re: Adding ethnicity traits

    Another question: can I take ethnicity traits from factions that are still alive? What would happen to AI's FMs having these ethnicities?
    Last edited by Centurio Nixalsverdrus; 10-02-2009 at 17:12.

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    Default Re: Adding ethnicity traits

    You've edited stuff about right.

    Another question: can I take ethnicity traits from factions that are still alive? What would happen to AI's FMs having these ethnicities?
    I wouldn't try it, weird stuff would probably happen, since you're taking away a trait from a guy that is still alive. Weeeeird stuff.
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    Default Re: Adding ethnicity traits

    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    You've edited stuff about right.

    I wouldn't try it, weird stuff would probably happen, since you're taking away a trait from a guy that is still alive. Weeeeird stuff.
    Thanks for the clarification. I think I'll better stick with the extinct factions' ethnicities.

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