That makes perfect sense, however I know that many of the german tribal warriors were responsible for a majority of their own food on campaign and supplied most of their own weapons and armor out of there own coffers, It just seems odd that the upkeep costs of many of the Barbarian units are so high, despite the fact they were mostly self sufficient unlike the locally garrisoned Roman counterparts, Its just hard to come up with the hordes of "Wild Barbarians" that I like to use to swarm the Roman Cohorts, I still enjoy the game but I guess I need to brush up on my economic gaming instead of giving myself so many "Economic Stimuli..cough...cough" haha thank you for your post is was very informative