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    Quote Originally Posted by julius_caesar_the_first View Post
    As far as I know girls\women tend too look for boys\men that are older than them. If that is the way your hypothetical 14 year old girl chooses to attract a guy then it's her choice to do so.
    Women want a man that's a few years older than themselves, with an upper age limit of probably 45. Basically a man in his "prime". Again, men will use tricks to try to look younger and more virile than they are.

    I imagine you mean a typical 14 year old girl. Unless she's got her age stamped on her, how do you know her age? You can guess but in some cases you could be a 7 year jail sentence out. Lusting after someone you perceive to be 19 but is 15 for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    I imagine you mean a typical 14 year old girl. Unless she's got her age stamped on her, how do you know her age? You can guess but in some cases you could be a 7 year jail sentence out. Lusting after someone you perceive to be 19 but is 15 for example.:
    Yes I meant a typical 14 year old girl. Although I'm 70% right when guessing the age of a girl there is always that 30% when I could be wrong and wind up in jail without any fault of my own, especially if she lied about her age (which happens quite often).
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    Quote Originally Posted by julius_caesar_the_first View Post
    Yes I meant a typical 14 year old girl. Although I'm 70% right when guessing the age of a girl there is always that 30% when I could be wrong and wind up in jail without any fault of my own, especially if she lied about her age (which happens quite often).
    Which is why you won't get punished for anything if you are judged to have taken appropriate measures to make sure she's over 16 here. For example, if you hit on a girl in a bar with an age requirement of 20(which means serving alcohol stronger than beer and wine) who sneaked in using a fake ID, for example, then you won't be facing any charges.

    When there are no victims, there is no reason for a punishment. The age of consent-laws are there to protect children from pedophiles and being taken advantage of - it's not there to protect them from sex. If parents feels the need to keep their teenagers away from sex, then they will have to do so themselves.
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    Found an interesting bit of analysis - and comparision - on the topic here.

    Personally, I blame overzealousness mixed with lingering Puritanism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The age of consent-laws are there to protect children from pedophiles and being taken advantage of - it's not there to protect them from sex.
    If this is true it will be contained in the statute, demonstrate that or you don't have a case. A legal system works by having laws, if you break them you are punished, end of. Currently laws in the US say that naked pictures of girls/women under 18 are illigal and constitute child pornography. They also say that sex under a certain age is rape.

    As I said, if you think it's wrong you change the law, you don't flout it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    If this is true it will be contained in the statute, demonstrate that or you don't have a case. A legal system works by having laws, if you break them you are punished, end of.
    Well then good sir, demonstrate where it says "Age of consent" in any book of law.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Currently laws in the US say that naked pictures of girls/women under 18 are illigal and constitute child pornography. They also say that sex under a certain age is rape.
    Which is so silly it's honestly beyond words. But do enjoy your nanny state. Because, after all, when the citizens are too dumb to protect themselves, it's nice to have Big Brother protecting you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    As I said, if you think it's wrong you change the law, you don't flout it.
    Incorrect. If you think the law is retarded, I see no problem in breaking said law. However, thinking you won't get punished when caught is also retarded. But that does not mean that you get punished is also not retarded.

    But I have a question for you then, Phillipvs:

    I had a girlfriend when I was 17. She was 6 months younger than me, so 16 for the first few months of our relationship. We had this "thing", when she was horny and wanted me to come over for some youknowwhat, she would get undressed(with varying degrees of underwear on, or none), take a picture and send it to me on my phone, instead of just asking me to come over. It was a sex-game, and an extremely arousing one too. Made things very intense.

    The question is, in your opinion, should I be punished for this? If so, how? Am I a sex offender because I had sex and recieved naughty pics of my girlfriend in my youth? Should she be punished for this? Both her parents and mine knew we had sex, and neither had a problem with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    I had a girlfriend when I was 17. She was 6 months younger than me, so 16 for the first few months of our relationship. We had this "thing", when she was horny and wanted me to come over for some youknowwhat, she would get undressed(with varying degrees of underwear on, or none), take a picture and send it to me on my phone, instead of just asking me to come over. It was a sex-game, and an extremely arousing one too. Made things very intense.

    The question is, in your opinion, should I be punished for this? If so, how? Am I a sex offender because I had sex and recieved naughty pics of my girlfriend in my youth? Should she be punished for this? Both her parents and mine knew we had sex, and neither had a problem with it.
    You're normal, you're healthy, so you're horny as hell. That's a felony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Well then good sir, demonstrate where it says "Age of consent" in any book of law.
    Age at which you can consent to sex, so the law is there to stop you having sex.

    Which is so silly it's honestly beyond words. But do enjoy your nanny state. Because, after all, when the citizens are too dumb to protect themselves, it's nice to have Big Brother protecting you.
    It's the law, it's also pretty well known law these days with all the pedo cases.

    Also, stop with the ad hominin attacks, I have not advocated a "Nanny State" merely obedience to the Law as it stands

    Incorrect. If you think the law is retarded, I see no problem in breaking said law. However, thinking you won't get punished when caught is also retarded. But that does not mean that you get punished is also not retarded.
    How will your Utopia function if no one follows the Law? Will the Police, the State follow the Law when prosecuting?

    But I have a question for you then, Phillipvs:

    I had a girlfriend when I was 17. She was 6 months younger than me, so 16 for the first few months of our relationship. We had this "thing", when she was horny and wanted me to come over for some youknowwhat, she would get undressed(with varying degrees of underwear on, or none), take a picture and send it to me on my phone, instead of just asking me to come over. It was a sex-game, and an extremely arousing one too. Made things very intense.

    The question is, in your opinion, should I be punished for this? If so, how? Am I a sex offender because I had sex and recieved naughty pics of my girlfriend in my youth? Should she be punished for this? Both her parents and mine knew we had sex, and neither had a problem with it.
    What Adrian said, perfectly normal and a felony. This also very different because you are quite explicitely in a consenting sexual relationship.

    You haven't asked me the most important question though, should it be illegal?

    A: Well of course not, if you're old enough to do it I can't see why you aren't old enough to be filmed doing it. The Law is full of such absurdities, particually concerning age, and they should be changed. Until they are, however, the Law should be abided by.
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    Default Re: Teens send each other naked pictures, get charged with child pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    The question is, in your opinion, should I be punished for this? If so, how? Am I a sex offender because I had sex and recieved naughty pics of my girlfriend in my youth? Should she be punished for this? Both her parents and mine knew we had sex, and neither had a problem with it.
    Nope. The first thing that comes to mind is 'cute', Americans (well some) can be sooooooo childish when it comes to sex. My mom bought me condoms when I was 14, but all I could think of when I was 14 was becomming a jedi. They ended in someone's neck they are great water-balloons.

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