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    The complete roman army by Adrian Goldsworthy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ||Lz3|| View Post
    The complete roman army by Adrian Goldsworthy
    I would ignore Goldsworthy, given his analysis of the later era Roman army is pretty weak in my opinion.

    If you want something that is really detailed in regards to many eras, try A Companion to the Roman Army By Paul Erdkamp. This book does not glorify the Prinicipate era army, which makes it more useful in my opinion.


    Google books has a preview for you guys if you want to read it. A preview which is legal.


    The sheer amount of information is huge, and it does not give a bias look at the later era Roman army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray243 View Post
    I would ignore Goldsworthy, given his analysis of the later era Roman army is pretty weak in my opinion.

    If you want something that is really detailed in regards to many eras, try A Companion to the Roman Army By Paul Erdkamp. This book does not glorify the Prinicipate era army, which makes it more useful in my opinion.


    Google books has a preview for you guys if you want to read it. A preview which is legal.


    The sheer amount of information is huge, and it does not give a bias look at the later era Roman army.
    Here is the link.



    http://books.google.com/books?id=hR7...n+army#PPP1,M1

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    Here are two good ones for the Celtic world, both by Berresford Ellis:

    Celt and Roman,
    The Celtic Empire

    I’ll post others when I remember them.

    Celt and Roman, is a good overview of the contact and wars between the Romans and Cis Alpine Gauls.

    The Celtic Empire, is a good overview of Celtic expansion, culture, wars, subjugation and other happenings between 1000BC and 51AD, it’s a little dated now but it’s a good starter history.
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    The Companion to the Roman Army is pretty good by looking at the preview, but I looked up it's price on Amazon.com. A mind blowing $140. I can't see how it could be worth spending that much. The book I mentioned when I started this thread gave just as much, if not more detailed information about the early kingdom and early republic. It's only 200 pages less, but per-page it fits much more information, and for only $20 at borders.

    If the book wasn't so damn expensive I'd probably go and pick it up. Good suggestion though. I'll check out the others you guys mentioned on Carthage and the Gauls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecellarlife View Post
    The Companion to the Roman Army is pretty good by looking at the preview, but I looked up it's price on Amazon.com. A mind blowing $140. I can't see how it could be worth spending that much. The book I mentioned when I started this thread gave just as much, if not more detailed information about the early kingdom and early republic. It's only 200 pages less, but per-page it fits much more information, and for only $20 at borders.

    If the book wasn't so damn expensive I'd probably go and pick it up. Good suggestion though. I'll check out the others you guys mentioned on Carthage and the Gauls.
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    Not so much Roman history, but Pontic:

    I just ordered Mithridates the Great by Philip Matyszak. Wonder if it's any good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray243 View Post
    I would ignore Goldsworthy, given his analysis of the later era Roman army is pretty weak in my opinion.

    If you want something that is really detailed in regards to many eras, try A Companion to the Roman Army By Paul Erdkamp. This book does not glorify the Prinicipate era army, which makes it more useful in my opinion.


    Google books has a preview for you guys if you want to read it. A preview which is legal.


    The sheer amount of information is huge, and it does not give a bias look at the later era Roman army.
    IIRc that book costs ~$170.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lobf View Post
    IIRc that book costs ~$170.
    Which is why I suggest you to look up in the library.

    Even so, the preview alone is good enough.

    Their infomation about the Roman army after the death of Commodus and during the 3rd century Crisis is helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray243
    I would ignore Goldsworthy, given his analysis of the later era Roman army is pretty weak in my opinion.
    For my part I read him because of the high remarks in his peer reviews he gets. He is used as a reference in books that are coming out, such as "Soldiers and Ghosts" and a few others I can't recall off hand. I have read a couple other forum folk say they didn't think much of Goldsworthy, I was wondering why? Is there a historian you have read that completely lambastes Goldsworthy? If so I'm interested to know who, it would be in contrast to the multitude of other historians who claim him to be one of the best in his field. But don't go on my word, look up his peer reviews!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frostwulf View Post
    For my part I read him because of the high remarks in his peer reviews he gets. He is used as a reference in books that are coming out, such as "Soldiers and Ghosts" and a few others I can't recall off hand. I have read a couple other forum folk say they didn't think much of Goldsworthy, I was wondering why? Is there a historian you have read that completely lambastes Goldsworthy? If so I'm interested to know who, it would be in contrast to the multitude of other historians who claim him to be one of the best in his field. But don't go on my word, look up his peer reviews!
    If anything, try and look up on the German Historians in regards to late era Roman army.

    A lot of generic ideas like the Roman army was weak in the late empire was rebutted.

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    Oh ya, another book to recommend, much cheaper.

    http://books.google.de/books?id=r2hB...tcover#PPP1,M1

    The Imperial Roman Army
    Von Yann Le Bohec

    Only 30 plus bucks.

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    I thought Rubicon was very good for what it is, i.e popular history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oudysseos View Post
    I thought Rubicon was very good for what it is, i.e popular history.
    Agreed. Rubicon isn't bad for a skim the surface type history. Holland generally does a good job with the general story progression, although is light on depth.

    If you are looking for Carthaginian history during the punic wars, I would recommend The Fall of Carthage by Goldsworthy. His Caesar: Life of a Colossus is pretty good too if you want a more specific subject matter.

    Kagan's Peloponnesian War was good for the Greek world.

    Barry Cunliffe's work is supposed to be good for the Gallic world, although I haven't yet gotten around to reading any myself. It's on my to-do list.

    You can always read the primary sources too if you are up for it.

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    Cunliffe good. Beresford Ellis also good on celts.
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    I got Herodotus' The Histories today. I'm loving it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    I got Herodotus' The Histories today. I'm loving it!
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