Natives

[Sir Beane]

Some things we know about the game and some are just guesses. If there is a map though, it gets harder to make provinces unreachable…especially if you give it to some playable faction or other.



Go here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=110990&page=3 bottom of the page.

As you can see it is the Americas and some of the provinces.


The city of Panama with all its wealth was on the Pacific side. To raid it you had to march through swamps filled with mosquitoes, crocodiles, and poisonous snakes, or sail to the Pacific side. The alter of the Cathedral was made of solid gold…but white washed to disguise it. Morgan missed it…will you?

If I'm raiding a city I won't miss anything. I'll be instructing my men to take anything that isn't nailed down. And if it is nailed down to prise out the nails, then take it, then take the nails to!

[Polemists]

yes...it is a great time to pillage the natives of various lands for all they are worth


I assume the same old exerterminate, enslave, occupy is back when you capture a native town. Though I could be wrong.


The only way to truly KNOW

is in

a

DEMO

[Sir Beane]

yes...it is a great time to pillage the natives of various lands for all they are worth


I assume the same old exerterminate, enslave, occupy is back when you capture a native town. Though I could be wrong.


The only way to truly KNOW

is in

a

DEMO

CA might be being careful about 'enslave' given the connotations with the slave trade that they are already trying hard to avoid.

I intend to peacefully occupy as many settlements as possible. My Empire shall be one of peace and tolerance. (For the five minutes it takes for mass rebellion. Then it will be swift and brutal crushing)

[Polemists]

Don't worry Beanie your brutal crushing of the locals will be nothing compared to what will occur to your empire if there is no DEMO tommorrow


I think they do have to be careful but it's also kind of hard to go, "Oh right, historic game, 18th century had no slaves, none at all."

Of course we'll find out the truth...

when we have

a demo........

[The Blind Samurai]

Well my empire will be that of czarist russia where only the strong rule and the weak die and i aslo hope to conquer the riches of north america and allie myself with sioux and fight everyone else and crush them and their heathen relgions where only I The Blind Samurai Rule over all manners of peoples ranging from the french to the indains and it as that time the world shall know peace

[Fisherking]

I want to see the most numerous and powerful tribes in southern North America, playable or not!

At least two or three of the so called 5 Civilized tribes should be there, French or no French!

The Choctaw, Creek, and Cherokee should really have lands in this game. Leaving them out is hard to justify. The Chickasaw were a small but influential tribe ( they fought so much they couldn’t keep any large numbers) but their position could be combined with the Choctaw. The Seminole didn’t really exist as a tribe at the time, they were mostly Creek refugees mixed with other tribes and runaway slaves in Florida in the 19th century.

If CA thinks the Indians were hostile in the 18th century, just wait and see how hostile it gets if they leave them out!!!

[Sir Beane]

A native faction would be extremely interesting to play as. It could be a fun mimi-campaign trying to drive the European settlers out of North America, and then keep them out.

I wonder just how far up the tech tree it's possible to go as the Native American tribes? If they can get large sailing ships it will be both historically innacurate and wonderful.

[Fisherking]

A native faction would be extremely interesting to play as. It could be a fun mimi-campaign trying to drive the European settlers out of North America, and then keep them out.

I wonder just how far up the tech tree it's possible to go as the Native American tribes? If they can get large sailing ships it will be both historically innacurate and wonderful.

Privateers! Capture!

Hay they built 60 foot canoes that is enough to surprise a ship at anchor. And do I remember something about capturing ships in port with a town under blockade?

[Jason X]

I wonder how easy it will be for factions such as the Mughal or the Ottoman Empire to build specialist beast units like camels and elephants? If they can grab a colony in North America and then start churning out camelry it will be utterly rediculous.

Ideally I hope that elephants and camels can only be recruited in regions in which they live wild/have a very long history of being bred.

this line of argument is fallacious. why is it any different to the availability of horses to factions in america? after all - horses were introduced by european colonists...

[Sir Beane]

this line of argument is fallacious. why is it any different to the availability of horses to factions in america? after all - horses were introduced by european colonists...

Mostly because horses are much more widely available than either camels or elephants. Not to mention much easier to train and breed. Plus the fact that horses had been around in the Americas since Christopher Columbus introduced them in 1493. Thats 200 years of breeding, enough for feral populations such as Mustang to spring up. Horses in America may well have been a problem if the game was set two centuries earlier, but in 1700 they were pretty much everywhere. Camels and elephants were not, however.

[Jason X]

elephants take a long time to breed, so you might have a point there, but the historical australian example of camels (wild camel population from zero to a million in about 50 years) shows that there's no reason to restrict them.

[Sir Beane]

elephants take a long time to breed, so you might have a point there, but the historical australian example of camels (wild camel population from zero to a million in about 50 years) shows that there's no reason to restrict them.

If the game supports dynamic resources then camels could become available after ten or so years of Ottoman occupation, to simulate breeding colonies developing.

[The Blind Samurai]

i cant wait till the demo comes out hopefully they will have one native faction in the game

[Megas Methuselah]

It will probably just be an historic battle between England and France or something.

[Sir Beane]

It will probably just be an historic battle between England and France or something.

You are almost certainly right about this. CA can't give all the interesting stuff away in the demo.