about the pike units in M2

[Strategos Alexandros]

Agincourt was more due to the French knights being higher ranking than their commander and going off in wild charges into the mud or their allies than any particular effectiveness of the English Longbowmen though. Granted the Longbowmen were skilled but crossbows were better against armour, despite having a much longer reload time.

[Cute Wolf]

Well, The pike problem is finished long time ago with some animation fixes made by (I forgot...) it does wonders with pikemen.. now pikemen is the most awesome front line unit, but I believe that pike formation and phalanx formation is still diffrent a bit.

I'll just want to ask, if we put the Swiss pikemen against Alexander's Pezhetairoi in equal battle, face to face, with same length pointy sticks, who will win? any suggestion? I'll just want to see who's using their pointy sticks more effectively...

[Iraklis]

well... since Alexanders pikemen where using shield and linothorax and swiss one where using no shield or body armor that the later would have biger mortality rate... Then again i could be mistaken.

[bobbin]

Also i think the sarissa was usually a fair bit longer that the pike, not completely sure though.

[Strategos Alexandros]

It wasn't that much different in length, but in real life the Swiss would be supported by better missile armed troops than the Makedonians, and were arguably the best pike in the world at the time. Plus their first rank of halberdiers and Zweihander wielders would most likely tear the phalanx apart.