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    Default Re: Why are we not allowed to kill

    Quote Originally Posted by rasoforos View Post
    You assume that unless someone believes in God he will inherently be immoral and he will not let's say murder someone just because it will be socially damaging to the said person.

    In other words it assumes that an Atheist would have no problem to murder people if he would benefit from it and there was no fear of punishment. This is a very common religious argument 'that people who dont believe in gods have no moral values'.

    This is clearly wrong and offensive. Substitute 'Atheist' with your religious belief and you will see what I mean.

    But apart from being wrong its also religion bashing. (Atheism being a religion according to the backroom rules).

    I would like to stop this here. Maybe I cannot explain what I mean well enough.
    I don't beleive that they are more likely to do it (as I have said) - but I don't beleive that morality as it is traditionally understood exists without faith in the intangible.

    So essentially there is no morality without the superlative that exists seperatly from the practical.

    There is no morality for you - just agreement with others on policies - and we all know how much those matter. From your point of view there is also no morality for me either because my rationale is incorrect. Just because I was confused wouldn't mean that I was any more moral than you, you know?

    So you take morality to be synonomous with social contracts. I take it to be synonomous with a divine plan. Your understanding is not universal where as mine is - yet those who adhere to humanist contractual morality constantly use universal rhetoric to lambast murder. I just don't get it.
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