Rather Large Historical Error

**Mangudai** · 01-22-2009, 04:52

Eric the Red and Leif Ericson sailed west to look for new lands.

**Megas Methuselah** · 01-22-2009, 09:27

Originally Posted by lars573

Thing is M2TW didn't have a pagan faith (closest you came was Heresey) until the expansion added it to the Teutonic campagin.

I don't know what you're talking about, boy. M2TW does have the Pagan faith. It's quite popular in the eastern baltic and the Americas, where it's the "official" religion of the Aztecs.

**Incongruous** · 01-22-2009, 11:01

The Golden Horde, I believe, was Christian and at one point offered to help Christendom rid themselves of the Muslims in a pincer attack from both east and west, it was rejected.

**KingKnudthebloodthirsty** · 01-22-2009, 21:14

Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar

The Golden Horde, I believe, was Christian and at one point offered to help Christendom rid themselves of the Muslims in a pincer attack from both east and west, it was rejected.

Yes. Many mongols were nestorian christians See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Mongol_alliance
And yes, though they maintained good relations, they had trouble w/ cooperation. I find out also that the Mongols were originally shamanists, a religion common Central Asian nomads, so it won't be wrong to make them pagan. They were also buddhists, not surprisingly since of their closeness to China and Tibet.

**Megas Methuselah** · 01-29-2009, 08:39

Originally Posted by lars573

No there isn't, in the game. I investigated it a few times by conquering Lithuania. No paganism, just Heresey.

...? That's odd. Maybe it's in a patch? In my games, the Aztecs and Lithuanians are pagans. It even says in the descr_sm_faction.txt file... Unless, FactionHeir made it in his VanillaMod, which I am using?

**Quintus.JC** · 02-01-2009, 20:41

Mongols should of been Pagans.

In vanila Medieval II the Aztech were pagans, so did many province in north east Europe.

And yes, the Timurids are muslims, but the Mongols were most definitely not.

**Paradox** · 02-02-2009, 12:27

Perhaps they needed more Muslim factions in the game? Since the amount of Muslims and Catholics, the two main religions in the game, are unbalanced. Or maybe the Mongols were required to have the skill to call a jihad in order to uphold their strong momentum of capturing city after city, since other faiths lack the ability and unity to call their own religious campaigns.

Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar

The Golden Horde, I believe, was Christian and at one point offered to help Christendom rid themselves of the Muslims in a pincer attack from both east and west, it was rejected.

Might I ask why it was rejected? Why would Christendom pass up such an opportunity to defeat those who have been impeding their expansions and their main opposition of the occupation of the holy land.

**Aemilius Paulus** · 03-21-2009, 18:09

Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

...? That's odd. Maybe it's in a patch? In my games, the Aztecs and Lithuanians are pagans. It even says in the descr_sm_faction.txt file... Unless, FactionHeir made it in his VanillaMod, which I am using?

Maybe you are confusing the religions with BI. They had paganism there.

**Caius** · 03-21-2009, 19:58

The whole "sailed west to prove the Earth was round" meme is an outright myth fabricated by the American author Washington Irving.

That is right, Colombus sailed West to arrive to India, but found America instead.

**lars573** · 01-22-2009, 16:49

Originally Posted by Methuselah

I don't know what you're talking about, boy. M2TW does have the Pagan faith. It's quite popular in the eastern baltic and the Americas, where it's the "official" religion of the Aztecs.

No there isn't, in the game. I investigated it a few times by conquering Lithuania. No paganism, just Heresey.