Music in Empire

[Fisherking]

You need more choices up above.

Traditional marches! Folk tunes from the various lands, It would be great if you could select a particular tune for your various generals and admirals. Their special march for battle…but that isn’t going to happen.

So we will listen to Yankee Doodle and maybe Gary Owen, Irish Washer Woman, and a few others until we pull out our hair…

[Lord Winter]

Any type of music will be good, as long as it works.

[Polemists]

While we could include national anthems, unless it was british or american I wouldn't be able to understand it...so I prefer the usual way CA does it. Long classical scores with plenty of unique and creative tunes that fit the time period.

CA has done a phenomenal job so far with music, I leave it up to them to figure out what to do this time.

[ThePianist]

English and also Scots and Irish military marches:

As you listen to British military marches, you'll notice that often there is the "British military intro", which consists of two sets of rolling drums, each striking three times. (trrr-trrr-trrr, trrr-trrr-trrr)

Just about every song in Edinburgh Military Tattoo is good, depending on taste, I never heard them all, it's mostly bagpipe and fife and drums. Edinburgh Military Tattoo can be found easily on youtube.

http://www.farmersboys.com/MAIN/regimental_music.htm
The Duke of Edinburgh's Regiment - The Farmer's Boy (excellent music all around)
Wiltshire Regiment - The Vly (perhaps music accompanying an event page)
Gloucestershire Regiment - Kynegad Slashers (excellent music all around, though Farmer's Boy is still better)
Gloucestershire Regiment - The Young May Moon (this is also known as Florentiner Marsch by the Germans. Exact same tune, don't know which one came first. Rather mellow without the occasional saxophone part, could be campaign map music)
The Standard of Saint George: excellent marching music. Originally a soldier of the Roman Empire (the Christian one, after 311), taken by the British as a national symbol. This is the original George that all the other Georges are named after.

Radio 4 UK theme
-Rule Britannia (British national anthem. Royal anthem is God Save the Queen, same throughout all British countries such as Canada, Australia, New Zealand..., with distinct national anthem in each. So British national anthem is Rule Britannia) could be accompanying music to an event page, not the kind of music playing again and again
-Londonderry Air or Danny Boy, Irish song, very landscapely beautiful, (could be campaign map music, the kind of music playing again and again)
-What shall we do with a drunken sailor, my favorite, very Celtic with a marching but also a dancing tune
-Men of Harlech, Welsh song, also my favorite, with about a dozen lyrics versions

Heart of Oak: song of the Royal Navy
http://www.stadband.ca/snd/heartofoak.mp3
Never heard it sung in as good of a way as it is played instrumentally, except when sung by myself, so I am not posting a sung version

A Life on the Ocean Wave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAlSXeo-sBY (starts at 0:13)

Royal Green Jackets County Regiments 3 - 1 (very fast marching songs or cavalry rhythms)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TJHz58xh6A
Light Infantry County Regiments 5 - 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWKPCh90BR4
British Bugle Calls: http://www.farmersboys.com/MAIN/Bugles_Calls.htm
It would be excellent for battle map music, depending on the order given

Marche des soldats de Robert Bruce (Robert Bruce's soldiers march)
played at Bannockburn 1314 by the Scots
played at Orléans 1429 by the Scottish volunteers for Jeanne d'Arc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNUwc01dypU
with later written lyrics

Scots wha hae (Scottish anthem 1/5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JPtb6oi2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKT7qxk9-pw
Scotland the Brave (Scottish anthem 2/5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF5pEsJQlxI
Highland Cathedral (Scottish anthem 3/5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oieFS785QPk
Flower of Scotland (Scottish anthem 4/5)
http://www.electricscotland.com/tvsc...ScotlandRST.rm
A man's a man (Scottish anthem 5/5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFpkqLI4GY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMRbOupoUfM (after 0:30)


Franc military marches:

-Marche de l'Académie Militaire de Saint-Cyr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T1U7KyqIG4
-L'hymne du Premier Empire, Le Chant du Départ: the lyrics are as dramatic and strong as, or more than, those of La Marseillaise. It is known as the second Marseillaise, written as an epic opera, with the soldiers singing as they leave their village for battle, with an elected representative singing one part, then the soldiers singing the chorus, then their fathers and old men singing one part, then the soldiers the chorus, then their mothers, then the soldiers, then their sisters, then the soldiers, then their younger brothers, then the soldiers, and so on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX1hYxgcgmM Starts after 0:14 First chorus at 0:50 till 1:12 The music matche the words exactly, so it's easy to follow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXaV8O7UmM Notice the Roman eagle on top of the Franc flags, also the Roman eagle with laurel wreath on the soldiers' caps.
lyrics can be found on Wikipedia

-Marche de la garde consulaire à Marengo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUUoQ4Q19o
-Les trompettes D'Aïda One of the most glorious marches ever written by humanity ever, Franc or otherwise.
Instrumental: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq_if8R5xZE Starting at 3:34 till 5:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QO21JCa7NA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNEu09pVD8E Starting at 3:28 till 5:03
With words about French Regiments of Africa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1IORWhMUSk and lyrics here: http://www.musicanet.org/robokopp/french/cestnous.htm Some of the best song verses ever written in French, rivalled only by le Chant du Départ and La Marseillaise
Pas de Charge de la Marine Impériale - the charging steps (or, the charging cadence) of the Imperial Navy This is from the First Empire. In Franc, "Marine" is Navy, and "Infanterie de la Marine" is Marines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju1pL5T9GLA
La Victoire est à Nous/ On vas leur percer le flanc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fm5iKdsZmQ
-La Marseillaise so stereotypical I suggest not including it, or only briefly
Marches des Cuirassiers (the best rendition)/Marche des Grenadiers a Cheval
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os_5eibgtOc
-La Marche des Cuirassier (less good rendition) La Victoire est à nous (at 1:19) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q76CBzXupW4
-La Marche de la Garde Impériale a Waterloo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ_SFLzt-n4
-Aux Tambours de la Vieille Garde Impériale 1810 (by the drums of the Old Imperial Guard 1810, only drum sounds, this is good battlefield music, or loading screen music) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqN3Z7EHrz0
Pas acceléré
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIR-8SUiLto

Le Régiment de Sambre et Meuse (lyrics composed 1879, music composed and played in 1919, so it's outside the era):
instrumental with history description of the battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxuvTB-HCYQ (actual song from 0:25 to 1:35, the other parts are intro-fanfare, and some random fanfare)
sung (and very well sung, except for a slightly off-air at the chorus part): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL_lZkJyDR0
lyrics: http://club-acacia.over-blog.com/article-5881017.html
Again, the Francs are excellent at writing glorious military songs. I merely didn't post this one at first because there is a line describing immortality as dying for the fatherland, which isn't true. Immortality is living with Jesus. For a military composition the music is excellent. The lyrics has bravery such as "...To the death we stood in ranks. The regiment, by sprayed projectiles, was assailed on all sides. Yet the living/human rampart remained impassible and standing"

Salut des Aigles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaCwIuodtQ
Chant de l'oignon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKRogpFUaY0
Fanfare de cavalerie du 8e Hussards d'Altkirch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxHpthDLpZw
Fanfare 2ème Hussards - Au pas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnWjS1kaiZU
Fanfare 2ème Hussards - Cavalerie en FAR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6thR2uHuxI
Fanfare 2ème Hussards, part 1, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt0RiadcKNg
Fanfare 2ème Hussards, part 2, (same as "Highland Cathedral" after 0:10) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3feEGKqMIw


Polish military marches:
I collected relatively few of this country, in great disproportion to my interest in getting the songs, because I can't search in Polish.
-Poland anthem: Jeszcze Polska Nie zginęła (Yesh-zh-ey Polska Nee-yezgee-ney-wa, the zh is pronounced like j in jeep) Poland has not yet perished One of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard, either sung or instrumental.
Instrumental: http://www.poland.gov.pl/files/polish_anthem.mp3
Sung: http://www.ceo.org.pl/_files_/mojapo.../mazurek_c.mp3
Lyrics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazurek_D%C4%85browskiego

-Warszawianka 1831
lyrics: wow, I actually only found this now. I thought it was an instrumental only till a few seconds ago. The lyrics are about as beautiful as the Marseillaise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warszawianka_1831_roku
instrumental: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XcAxgq_WiQ
sung: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXdawhw-qu8

A song of the Polish Uhlan and Hussars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hN0HM0E-xM


German military marches, the best ones overall aside from the exceptionally good ones in Franc, British and Polish

The German military marches often have the Prussian intro, which consists of a set of fife and drums. I never found an MP3 with only the intro, but here is the most complete intro: from 0:30 to 3:36 is the Prussian intro, all of it, and from 3:27 to 3:36 is the Prussian intro, short style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VarayMJDDTE
This is the Großer Zapfenstreich, which is the military parade of the German army.


German marches are most easily collected. I have so many it'd take way too long to list
Before you read any German lyrics, remember that in German (which is East-English, since English is West Germanic), "die" is English "the" and "lied" is English "song".
Die Wacht am Rhein (The Watch over the Rhine): from 1840, lyrics impressive and beautiful (but not as beautiful as the Franc and Polish ones)
http://ingeb.org/Lieder/esbraust.html
Parademarsch Der 18er Husaren: this one is Austria-Hungarian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQJPy-z4zyw
Bataillon Garde: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiwigh27zSo
Preussen Gloria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKnRLUqynds This song has Lyrics. I know it and I have seen it before. Except I didn't copy it down. Now I can't find them, it was on one website, and it was lyrics written in the 19th century, not recently. So anyone finding the lyrics please post here, or PM me about it.
Marsch des Yorck'schen Korps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow5BbhGd5M This one is by von Beethoven, yes he composed at least one military march
Dessauer Marsch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXxqZbYfAqg
Hohenfriedberger Marsch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhOxFtj7Eo amazingly here is the sung version of the bridge part of the Koniggratzer
Königgrätzer Marsch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4PwSVW5Aak 19th century march made unfairly infamous by 3rd Indiana Jones movies combined with entertainment consumers' lack of knowledge about history. Hohenfriedberger Marsch starts at 1:11
Präsentiermarsch König Friedrich Wilhelm III von Preussen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGHCsEswMJk
Marsch des Herzogs von Braunschweig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BdwTWn_T6s
Prinz Eugen der edle Ritter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=armLMCpOSLs
Regimentsgruß: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-ACATnJzw
Pariser Einzugsmarsch (1814) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZuWWfe0KMQ March composed specially for the entry into Paris by combined armies of Prussia, Austria-Hungary and Britain. It was played once in 1814 and once again in 1940. :)
Das Badnerlied The most beautiful land in Germany: http://www.rothaus.de/img/10download...badnerlied.mp3
a folk song about Baden-Württemberg, very landscape and serene lyrics
Tirol du bist mein heimatland (Tyrol you are my Homeland) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbSLCcUnrxc a folk song about Tyrol, a region whose north is in Austria-Hungary and south or most of it is in Italy.
Hohe Tannen (High/Tall Conifer-trees): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USU5wuQNPyI Not a Third Reich song, or a Hitlerjugend song. Song written in 1700s or so, about, well, northern forests
Radetzky Marsch: http://home.claranet.de/liedertafel/radetzky.mp3 one of the most classical of classical musics
Alla Turca, Allegretto (Turkish March, alla is probably "à la", or in the way/manner of):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juLRqSV45vo Beautiful piano composition of Mozart. I didn't even know it was called Turkish March till in the US. In Canada some person constantly plays it in the subway.

American music:
Scott Joplin - The Entertainer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cFkae0j_Ns First heard in a Disney cartoon, played by Pluto with gloves from a magician. Beautiful 19th century American piano composition. Not sure if it's in Empire: Total War's time, though it'd be great campaign map music in the Wild West, if there is an expansion about that.
American Revolution songs (under 18th century, then Revolutionary War): http://www.contemplator.com/america/ (there is an unknown menu music, but as you click on each song, you'll see the lyrics and hear its MIDI)
Free America:
lyrics: http://www.contemplator.com/america/freeamer.html
tune (same as The British Grenadier)
sung: http://www.mcneilmusic.com/music/FreeAmer.mp3 (singing starts at 1:00, sung are the 6th stanza and 4th stanza)
The Liberty Song:
lyrics: http://www.contemplator.com/america/liberty.html
tune (same as Heart of Oak)
Star-Spangled Banner: it has 4 stanzas in lyrics. For some reason people think there is only 1.

Russian music:
The March of Preobrajensky Guard Regiment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsFHAJ-E3XE
The March of Semenovsky Guard Regiment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_4_RHSxgdY
The March of the Iszmailkovsky Guard Regiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIkDJKnBmLM
The March of the Yegersky Guard Regiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxCou__xspE

Missing:
March of Pavlovsky Guard Regiment
March of Moskovsky Guard Regiment
March of Yekaterinoslav (Guard?) Regiment
March of Mounted Guard Regiment
March of Russian Jaeger Regiments
March of Russian Cavalry (regular troops)
March of Russian Imperial Navy

If these marches exist.
{note: I hate imperial rule and anything resembling it, like how Putin tries to be emperor. This search for music is merely history interest and musical interest, not any support for kings or king-rule. Putin and all his despotic spy-colleagues will be overthrown by the Russian people.}

The Uthman Empire
Mehter Marssi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mnN-gbKmvE a march of the janissaries

Norway:
Gammel Norsk Jaegermarsch by Schioldberg
Den Norske Love, Marsch by Borg
Excellent classical music pieces, not quite battle music, but not quite mellow like Londonderry Air either. It has been years and I no longer can find where I downloaded them. Some songs I also WinMXed.

Sweden
Svenska Arméns Paradmarsch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuRkdr_4eE0
very energetic marching/battle music, cavalry rhythm. I only wonder how the infantry parade-marched to such an air
Under Svea Banér
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Y8Jg_ItG0&NR Impressively beautiful song
Swede change of the Imperial Guard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QyQJa7vCM
A great-sounding military song from beginning till 0:28
Instrumental (a good one) from 0:28 till 1:44
Jazz (??) from 1:44 till 3:00
Impressive drum drill from 3:00 till 5:12
ok to passable military music in between
A great-sounding landscape-type of patriotic song from 6:00 till 6:55
Some of the best fife and drum from 6:55 till 7:52

Muistoja Pohjolasta (A Finn march. Finland used to be part of Sweden till 1917)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBwUur0xabI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxlWGauFl5s

In Finn: Hakkapeliittain Marssi
In Swede: Finska Rytteriets Marsch i trettioåriga kriget
In German: Marsch der Finnländischen Reiterei
Instrumental version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi-YTuVGESw (best version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5X7VP9muc (not so well played, but with history info)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1MjKrlqNuM (also best version)
Lyrics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakkapeliitta
SUNG in Finn/Suomi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHfBscWCJzQ
This is my favorite Scandinavian march, by composition as well as lyrics. And even though it's Finn, it was part of Sweden at that time, so it can be considered Swedish. The Hakkapeliitta should be a special shock unit of Sweden in ETW.

[Megas Methuselah]

Nice effort! And nice toons! POTM!!! (post of the minute)

[Ishmael]

i would love to have some classical music, preferably some orchestral stuff, for the campaign map and naval battles especially. in particular, i would love stringed instruments in the naval music (dont ask why. i just do).
I also love the idea of national anthems-only problem is if some nations have them and others dont, it will seem more conspicuous if they aren't there.
Nice topic to speculate about though

[Fisherking]

I love the work you did The Pianist!


Now to anthems…

Do you know what they are going to do with the Native Americans!?!

Tom Tom music! Do you know how irritating that will be???

Now I have heard some wonderful Classical Music with Native American themes, but just plane Hollywood Drum music is a bit infuriating, you know.

I would prefer something more along the lines of the theme from The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly…lol