No ETW Demo with latest PC Gamer mag

[Stiboo]

Hi all

I'm a long time reader but first poster, and a veteren TW player, i've been watching the demo thread with great joy, and when this month's PC Gamer magazine dropped through my door earlier my heart jumped at the thought of just maybe...the demo might be inside...but no...no...BAAAHHH

But it did have the first review of ETW that i've seen, and gives it 94% and a MUST purchase recommendation, the only negative points are the feeling of the sea battles and the problem controlling the sea battles, everything thing else was superb !

Regards to you all !

[Polemists]

Okay I know some of you hate spoilers but could someone who does not hate spoilers do a scan or something or this article. I'd like to read it, and sadly they don't sell the mag where I live.

Thank you

[Sir Beane]

Okay I know some of you hate spoilers but could someone who does not hate spoilers do a scan or something or this article. I'd like to read it, and sadly they don't sell the mag where I live.

Thank you

Actually scanning the magazine and posting it online is very likely a breach of copyright, and therefore not allowed here.

It would not be illegal for someone who has read the magazine to give us a summary in their own words however.

[Nelson]

Actually scanning the magazine and posting it online is very likely a breach of copyright, and therefore not allowed here.

It would not be illegal for someone who has read the magazine to give us a summary in their own words however.

Roger that.

Upon release there will be many more articles. We will need to respect everyone's property rights.

[Stiboo]

Hello again

didn't have much time to write much earlier, the PC Gamer review is not online yet, so will not post the whole thing, PC Gamer are big TW fans and one of the first to have the MTW2 demo, the back page of this issue tells what will be in the next issue (12th March)- but still no mention of the demo, so i'm assuming the DEMO will only be direct from Sega or Steam ?

the important snippits of the review that interested me -


1700 - 1799 in 6 month turns



" there had been rumblings about TW being simplified for the US market, especially with the mini campaign Road To Independence, but don't think the complexity of the main game has been sacrificed, ETW is more and better than we've had before, CA do not seem to have shirked their responsibility, or stepped back from including more features or more detail"

" The trade routes arc around the huge main map, the core map stretches from Iceland on the top left to Sri Lanka on bottom right, red yellow and green status marks show you who you're sharing a sea-route with and how threatened you are, Pirates camping the route will need to be physically removed. The trade routes snake off into the rest of the world, including the 4 trade regions - S America, Ivory Coast, Straits of Madagascar and the E Indies, these are purely coastal regions in which fleets can be placed to generate money, it's then down to diplomacy and the grit of your admirals to keep them open"

" The AI turns remain achingly slow...."


" An empire can have up to 4 educational establishments....one of the new agent types is a Gentleman, and these can be installed in schools to speed up learning, this means you can push industrial, military, agricultural, or social research at different levels. In fact the tech tree and research process is one of the areas ETW seems to have nailed down best. Early races into particular areas of tech really do pay off, especially when you combine them with diplomacy, trading tech supremacy with your friends, this truly is a multi-layered game of cold blooded strategy"

" CA intend to make the campaign map multiplayer, this feature won't ship with the game, but within a couple of months you and a friend could be taking on the Ai nations"

" Naval combat although spectacular is unconvincing...I think there's a reason why there are so few naval combat sims, and even fewer good ones, it's a deeply difficult task, and CA have done the best that the game template will allow"

thats all for now folks!

[Mailman653]

Can someone explain the 99 years in six months thing?

[Fisherking]

Well it is interesting. Thanks for presenting it to us Stiboo!

Sounds like they were not ecstatic over the naval combat.

The game seems to have depth to it though.

It’s going to be a long 25 days before we can judge for our selves though.

[Sir Beane]

Many, many thanks to you Stiboo!

Tech trading with allies sounds fun .

The review actually made a mistake, if the far left of the map was Iceland then North America would not be in the game.

[Fondor_Yards]

" CA intend to make the campaign map multiplayer, this feature won't ship with the game, but within a couple of months you and a friend could be taking on the Ai nations"

Is this a joke? The whole game was delayed a month for a feature we probably won't get till July/August? What was the point in holding the release back if it's that far away from completion? Am I the only one upset by this?

[quadalpha]

What's the PCG policy on review discs? Does this mean it's finished/release ready?

[The Fuzz]

It's a bit worrisome that the main feature that CA has been pushing (naval battles) is the part of the game PCG took issue with...

[mp84]

What's the PCG policy on review discs? Does this mean it's finished/release ready?

Well, I am not sure how it is for PC Gamer (UK) ..

But PC Gamer US policy is reviewing finished product only.

however, over the last couple of months that policy has slightly changed to gold games they get from the publisher that says "reviewable"

which is why you were able to see a DoW 2 review for last months PC Gamer (US) and the game is not even out yet.

I'm sure the UK counterpart has a similar policy.

MP

[Vuk]

Hi all

I'm a long time reader but first poster, and a veteren TW player, i've been watching the demo thread with great joy, and when this month's PC Gamer magazine dropped through my door earlier my heart jumped at the thought of just maybe...the demo might be inside...but no...no...BAAAHHH

But it did have the first review of ETW that i've seen, and gives it 94% and a MUST purchase recommendation, the only negative points are the feeling of the sea battles and the problem controlling the sea battles, everything thing else was superb !

Regards to you all !

The Euro PC Gamer mag did not have the demo? Hhmmm...that is weird, my US version has the demo. It is pretty good.

[Polemists]

Either Vuk is fibbing.......or he inviting you all to his house to go play the demo haha :)

So Vuk, what does the demo include exactly, since you say you have it?

The good news is if the demo was included in us version, those of you in states have a easy way to get the demo (Go to your closest mag store and buy the issue)

For the rest of us, hopefully in a day or two steam will post it up anyhow.

Though i'd hold up rushing out and buying the mag with CD until Vuk confirms he does indeed have the demo (by giving us details).

[Vuk]

lol, I am fibbing. :P Poor old Vuk is demoless like everyone else. :P

[Polemists]

Vuk has betrayed the honor of the demo legions. Demo legionares....you know what to do.



In happier news, as game gets closer, so does the possibility of our...demonstration possibilities

[Vuk]

Yup, Vuk is naughty. Jennifer Ellison had better spank the bad boy.