Thank you!

[Fragony]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123258473846504459.html

This will fly in their face like a deus-ex machina from hell. Silly lefties

[rasoforos]

' The Dutch MP and leader of the Freedom Party, which opposes Muslim immigration into Holland, will stand trial soon for his harsh criticism of Islam. '

I support free speech and there are limits. When such comments come from a Nazi sympathizer Anti-Arab Anti-Muslim their motives are to the least suspicious and therefore should be thrown into the bin of history...

...surprise surprise he has the same unconditional love of Israel like you.


Fragony, since you yourself are an Anti-Arab without a cause do you really think we need to go through another twenty pages of what happened through the Gaza thread? You are practically quoting a real life troll and nothing good can come out of it.

[Don Corleone]

' The Dutch MP and leader of the Freedom Party, which opposes Muslim immigration into Holland, will stand trial soon for his harsh criticism of Islam. '

I support free speech and there are limits. When such comments come from a Nazi sympathizer Anti-Arab Anti-Muslim their motives are to the least suspicious and therefore should be thrown into the bin of history...

...surprise surprise he has the same unconditional love of Israel like you.


Fragony, since you yourself are an Anti-Arab without a cause do you really think we need to go through another twenty pages of what happened through the Gaza thread? You are practically quoting a real life troll and nothing good can come out of it.

Interesting perspective, Rasoforos. Opinions with which you disagree, even outright trolls as you claim this gentleman to be, aren't entitled to protection? Any chance you could publish a list of 'approved thought-speak' for the rest of us?

[Fragony]

' The Dutch MP and leader of the Freedom Party, which opposes Muslim immigration into Holland, will stand trial soon for his harsh criticism of Islam. '

I support free speech and there are limits. When such comments come from a Nazi sympathizer Anti-Arab Anti-Muslim their motives are to the least suspicious and therefore should be thrown into the bin of history...

...surprise surprise he has the same unconditional love of Israel like you.


Fragony, since you yourself are an Anti-Arab without a cause do you really think we need to go through another twenty pages of what happened through the Gaza thread? You are practically quoting a real life troll and nothing good can come out of it.

It's kinda cute how you think that makes sense.

[Tribesman]

Let him speak freely , his much hyped "masterpiece" was widely acclaimed as a pathetic joke .
Let the show himself for what he is a widely as possible .
Though I would suggest he change the parties name , maybe follow the example of somewhere like N.Korea and call it the intelligent nice honest non-bigot freedom democracy party

[Fragony]

Let him speak freely , his much hyped "masterpiece" was widely acclaimed as a pathetic joke .

That was the idea to begin with, and yes I know I dated his secretary. Wilders never asked for any publicity at, movie was never supposed to be that much. And it didn't do much, what's the problem, nobody cares here.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I support free speech and there are limits. When such comments come from a Nazi sympathizer

Wilders is a Nazi sympathizer? Then why would he compare the Koran to Mein Kampf and mean it as an insult?

[Devastatin Dave]

Wilders is a Nazi sympathizer? Then why would he compare the Koran to Mein Kampf and mean it as an insult?

Because if you can't make a real arguement about someone, its much easier to call them a nazi.

[HoreTore]

Silencing islam critics?

I do believe this is a case of silencing the deranged.

Not that I am a fan of that though. Insane people have a lot to offer society too, and as long we're aware of that insanity, all should be well.

Because if you can't make a real arguement about someone, its much easier to call them a nazi.

Hey! You should really apply for a PR-job for the Israeli government, Dave!

[Tribesman]

Wilders never asked for any publicity

Yes Frag , Wilders made a film that he didn't want the public to see , he also sought lots of screening so the public couldn't see , he also makes speeches that he doesn't want the public to hear , he even had to change his film and rerelease it because of some really silly mistakes and breaches of copyright which unchaged would have meant the people couldn't see his film .

So in Frags book someone who (even without the making of a film to publicise his views) took up public office and started his own political party to express his views to a national and international audience doesn't want publicity
Oh I get what you mean though , he did refuse one screening because the people that were offering to show his film insisted that he had to take part in a debate .
Unfortunately for the public Wilders doesn't like real debate , which is funny for someone who thinks its good to talk .

[Hax]

Freedom of speech does not give you the right to insult.

He has stated that "it [Islam] is a totalitarian ideology", and thus in his eyes all Muslims are a threat to the West. Pathetic.

[Lemur]

It may very well be pathetic, but is it criminal? Over here in the U.S. it would not be. And I kind of wonder if criminalizing distasteful speech is a super-duper bad idea.

[ajaxfetish]

Freedom of speech does not give you the right to insult.

Umm . . . why not?

Ajax

[Fisherking]

Not Good!

There are so many ways liberties come under assault and for political extremes (left or right) control of speech is very significant.

It is scary what control hate speech laws have, and what it may lead to.

[Strike For The South]

His video is at the end.

http://ezralevant.com/2009/01/hollan...cide-note.html

Very tame. Oh well such is appeasement.

[Kralizec]

I read your article Strike, and have a couple of points:

Wilders is a....radical liberal

Absolutely not. Wilders has many views wich have nothing to do with liberalism, the foremost being that he wants to ban books. The man is a reactionary populist.

(from the court publication) According to the Court of Appeal the instigation of hatred in a democratic society constitutes such a serious matter that a general interest is at stake in order to draw a clear boundary in the public debate.

This is a reasonable point, sort of. It's about time a court establishes in an actual criminal procedure that what Wilders did isn't punishable, one of the benefits being that it actually sends out a signal unlike simple non-prosecution. If only I were so confident.

What a disgusting victory for fascism and censorship and Muslim fundamentalism.

It's extremely unlikely that if punishment follows, it will be worse than a fine of maybe a couple of hundred bucks. Wilders would go on as he were but with a badge of "martyrhood". I expect that he's very happy with the way things are going so far.

Perhaps they're trying to run him out of town like they did Ayan Hirsi Ali.

(and I'm not laughing because it's a witty comparison)

[Hax]

Wilders' prosecution is perfectly justified. To compare a natural disaster with the immigration of people who want to build up a future in this country is disgusting.

[Kralizec]

Think about this one: if I said that social-democracy is a vile ideology, would I be prosecuted? Would enough people feel personally insulted to make that happen?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Wilders' prosecution is perfectly justified. To compare a natural disaster with the immigration of people who want to build up a future in this country is disgusting.

So?

Are you saying we should ban speech the majority considers disgusting?

CR

[Marshal Murat]

To compare a natural disaster with the immigration of people who want to build up a future in this country is disgusting.

Did the Romans debate the same about the Goths?