It doesn't get any sicker then this.

**Devastatin Dave** · 01-23-2009, 21:56

Originally Posted by rory_20_uk

I disagree.

He falls into one of two categories:

Sane - therefore evil, and deserving of retribution
Insane. The damaged goods needs to be disposed of.

I wrote an essay and you summed everything up with 4 sentences and had a smoke to boot. You're awesome.

**Tribesman** · 01-23-2009, 22:13

So Rory , in your medical opinion would someone who said things like

I wouldn't seek vengence on the nutbag only, I'd kill the bleeding hearts (judges, social workers)that allowed this waste of human flesh to breath the free air.

be sectionable and as such are they damaged goods that you would inject to dispose of ? .

**rory_20_uk** · 01-23-2009, 22:26

Words, not actions. Rather a cavernous difference. And speaking in a theoretical state of events in a situation where histrionics are the norm.

Sectionable? Danger to themselves or others. I see no evidence based on this small amount of information to judge, to be honest. I am unable to section an individual - I would need about three others to undertake a face-to-face review of the individual and that can take an hour or more.

**CountArach** · 01-23-2009, 22:31

What a

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Its things like this that make me wish hell existed just so people could burn in it.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 01-23-2009, 22:32

Take him out, shoot him, no more threat to society.

**Lorenzo_H** · 01-23-2009, 22:40

Sick. What makes me feel sicker is I know that we all have the capacity, if not the intention, to commit such things.

**ICantSpellDawg** · 01-24-2009, 00:37

Originally Posted by Lorenzo_H

Sick. What makes me feel sicker is I know that we all have the capacity, if not the intention, to commit such things.

I think that I could "let go" and kill a guy, but I can't forsee a situation in which I would "let go" by painting my face and riding my bike to a nursery to stab babies and caretakers to death for no reason.

**Tribesman** · 01-24-2009, 00:38

Words, not actions. Rather a cavernous difference.

ah so you would have to wait for the killing before you did it .
So that means you would then be a target of peolple who say ...

I'd kill the bleeding hearts (judges, social workers)that allowed this waste of human flesh to breath the free air.

See you have to kill the nuts before they go really nutty or you will feel the terrible vengenge of Dave

**rory_20_uk** · 01-24-2009, 12:29

Originally Posted by Tribesman

ah so you would have to wait for the killing before you did it .
So that means you would then be a target of people who say ...

See you have to kill the nuts before they go really nutty or you will feel the terrible vengeance of Dave

Perhaps I am incorrect, but Dave appears to list those that after the event would not enforce a death sentence on the individual. I doubt that a judge has anything to do with this person prior to the act.

"Bleeding hearts" generally seem to apply to those who try to lessen the act, or alternatively place the true blame with others.

There are an extremely small number of "nuts" that should be killed, but Medicine can not identify these with any sensitivity or specificity, leading to large numbers of false positives and false negatives.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 01-24-2009, 00:43

Originally Posted by Lorenzo_H

Sick. What makes me feel sicker is I know that we all have the capacity, if not the intention, to commit such things.

As much as I like your taste in avatars, I have to admit I don't agree on this. Sure I'd kill someone in a war no problem but this is absolutedy sick, I would never do what this creep did, there is nothing that would ever make me want to do that.

**Evil_Maniac From Mars** · 01-24-2009, 06:56

In contrast to earlier reporting, apparently the perpetrator had no psychiatric history.

**Meneldil** · 01-24-2009, 10:02

Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr

As much as I like your taste in avatars, I have to admit I don't agree on this. Sure I'd kill someone in a war no problem but this is absolutedy sick, I would never do what this creep did, there is nothing that would ever make me want to do that.

Many Nazis or Japanese soldiers did far worse between 1935 and 1945, yet they apparently weren't psycho or whatever else. I guess this is kind of topic, but I'm pretty sure anybody could do that.

What is for me completely disturbing is that you cannot really hate that kind of guy. Most likely, his brain is not working as it should and he couldn't be considered an human being anymore. So he did that, that's horrible and he probably deserves to die, but he's already not living per se.

As far as I find this event sick and disgusting, I still find it less disturbing than stories about mass-rape led by a 15year old dude. When the first is ****** because he's crazy, the second is ****** up because he has no sense of reality.