Diplomacy Thread

[Hax]

Your words are rank of hypocrisy, Theodotos. Good actions and intentions? Your plan is to divide my lands and only leave the Arche with the lands of Persis, you even took the word of destroying in your mouth, and now you say that I wish to conquer and oppress the Hellenes of Baktra.

Open to diplomacy? You come at my door and demand that I surrender the good part of my lands, including the riches of Mikras Asias, Seleukeia, built by my father, and Antiocheia, who I raised myself. This is not diplomacy, Theodotos.

However, if you truly do not wish any harm to be brought upon the Hellenes, which I too, would greatly regret, I can give you the cities of Marakanda and Alexandreia "the Furthest". From there, we can look to turn the barbaroi from the north back to the vast plains from whence they came. Ptolemaios and myself have already discussed a peacetreaty to avoid any Hellenic bloodshed in the Levant, and yet you seek to throw the Hellenic lands into turmoil and civil war.

I do not wish your blood, but if you continue to threaten me in such a way, I have no other option but to relieve you of your satrapy. Look at my offer closely, Theodotos.

[Subotan]

However, if you truly do not wish any harm to be brought upon the Hellenes, which I too, would greatly regret, I can give you the cities of Marakanda and Alexandreia "the Furthest". From there, we can look to turn the barbaroi from the north back to the vast plains from whence they came. Ptolemaios and myself have already discussed a peacetreaty to avoid any Hellenic bloodshed in the Levant, and yet you seek to throw the Hellenic lands into turmoil and civil war.

I assure you, that this all the Baktrian people want. Whether intentionally or not, we have been neglected by the great Arche, thanks to your distractions in the Levant, and we feel, whether justifiably or not, that our sacrifices have not been rewarded or even noticed by the Basileus. This is what we have been striving for, not conquest or conflict, ad we humbly ask for your forgiveness for what we said about dividing your great Arche; never would we think to act upon such a misguided whim.

However we beseech upon thee the request to add Margiane to our Satrapy; it would make communications between our three provinces easier and help finance our war against the Saka. To take the war against the Saka to the next level, as you propose, we will need more resources than a mere three provinces can provide, and with the Saka constantly harassing us, we will have no resources to spare to gather more territory in your name and push back the Saka. We would govern it in your name of course, and we will obey your every command. We would also like to remind you that there are rumblings among the Pahlava, and that a betrayal by them is not unlikely. Should Margiane stay under your direct control, it has no chance of being safely retained in your hands, with your resources stretched so thinly in your great Empire. However, were you to gift it to us, then we would be able to enforce your will much quicker and effectively than all the way from Antiochea.

Your Satrap of Baktria, Servant of the Arche - Diodotos II.

[Hax]

I understand what you are aiming at, Theodotos. Let us forget our past insults and threats, and let us look towards a common enemy; the steppe barbarians. I will move my capital to Susa as well, which is a better position to look over the east as well, and if you do what you say you will do, be assured that you will be rewarded.

[Subotan]

I understand what you are aiming at, Theodotos. Let us forget our past insults and threats, and let us look towards a common enemy; the steppe barbarians.

That sounds like an excellent plan Basileus, as the slaughter of Hellenes hurts us twice over, in that not only are there less Hellenes to resist those barbaroi, but more barbaroi will have survived to kill even more Hellenes; a vicious cycle.

I will move my capital to Susa as well, which is a better position to look over the east as well

I am not one to question you will Basileus, but why is this? There seem to be no lands to the east as to which you can expand into, we are friends with the Ptolemaioi, I am confident I can hold the North Eastern Frontier. If I were you, I would expand to the West, into Anatolia, and maybe even original Hellas...

[justmyname]

If I were you, I would expand to the West, into Anatolia, and maybe even original Hellas...

now, that is a dangerous thought my dear friend. expansion, as you say it, sounds like war.

[Subotan]

I am merely throwing ideas around. Of course, such a situation could only arise if a true tyranny descended upon Hellas, and the Seleukids needed to liberate Hellas from the clutches of despair and autocracy.

[cux47]

We Pontos may eastern-looking outsaid, but we are ture Hellenes insaid

We also served Alexander the Great in the past, and will continue aiding and showing respectfull friendness to his successors

Our people, every man and women, from the mountains and hills to the coast of Pontus Euxinus, would glad to see the Hellenes finaly ending this meanless bloodsheding among yourselves, and fights as a combaide force to repel those steppe raiders.

Noble basileus of Baktria, please bring my words and promise to you beloved king, Diodotos II, and spread it among your people. My army will advanc deeply into the north and destroy every babarian settlements I can find. Let it be a war that all good Hellenes are fight and die together for the common purpose, and shows it to the other nations, like the Roman tribes in the west, that we still are one!

[Sarkiss]

I am merely throwing ideas around. Of course, such a situation could only arise if a true tyranny descended upon Hellas, and the Seleukids needed to liberate Hellas from the clutches of despair and autocracy.

the tyranny threatens free loving city states of Greece. we, the Hellenes of Hellas do not need liberators, but we would like to hear words of support and condemnation of Makedonian aggression for their armies have invaded our polises and threaten to destroy the balance of power in the region.

Great assembly of Koinon Hellenon asks Makedonian King to come forward and speak his mind!
what do your soldiers do within our borders? shall we take this incursion as a declaration of war?


(nice RP folks, just stop using word Shan please, it's completely out of place here)