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    Default Re: Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    Something about being 'very long.'
    Actually, that means 'exceptionaly long'. More appropriate would be ΜΑΚΡΥΣ (long) or ΜΑΚΡΥΤΑΤΟΣ (longest), even though I don't think it was used for height.

    'The Red' would be 'ΕΡΥΘΡΟΣ' and 'Enlightened' would be (I believe) 'ΠΕΦΩΤΙΣΜΕΝΟΣ'. I'll have to think about other ones

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    This is a very intersting thread, especially for all AAR writers, so I would like to ask the greek-speakers for a few more:
    "Freedom-giver" - would that be "Eleutheroforos"?
    "Conqueror of India" - would that be "Indikoiketes"? (a la Demetrios Poliorketes ???)
    "The Founder" - ???
    "The Pater Patrie" - ???
    "The Lackland" - ???
    "The Protector" - ???
    "The Liberator" - ???
    "The Cruel" - ???
    "The Conqueror" - ???
    "The Warmonger" - ???
    "The Cruel" - ???
    "The Vanquisher of Parthians/Medes/Persians" - ???

    Basicaly whatever comes to your mind, throw it out here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by V.T. Marvin View Post
    This is a very intersting thread, especially for all AAR writers, so I would like to ask the greek-speakers for a few more:
    "Freedom-giver" - Eleutherodotes (ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΔΟΤΗΣ)
    "Conqueror of India" - Kataktetes Indias (ΚΑΤΑΚΤΗΤΗΣ ΙΝΔΙΑΣ)
    "The Founder" - Propator or Protoktistes (ΠΡΟΠΑΤΩΡ, ΠΡΩΤΟΚΤΙΣΤΗΣ)
    "The Pater Patrie" - Pater Patridos (ΠΑΤΗΡ ΠΑΤΡΙΔΟΣ)
    "The Lackland" - Not sure about that one
    "The Protector" - Proaspistes would be fine (ΠΡΟΑΣΠΙΣΤΗΣ)
    "The Liberator" - Apeleutherotes (ΑΠΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΩΤΗΣ)
    "The Cruel" - Baryphron (ΒΑΡΥΦΡΩΝ)
    "The Conqueror" - Kataktetes (ΚΑΤΑΚΤΗΤΗΣ)
    "The Warmonger" - Not sure here, but 'Polemochares' (ΠΟΛΕΜΟΧΑΡΗΣ) (war-loving) would be a good subtitute
    "The Vanquisher of Parthians/Medes/Persians" - Nikesas Parthon/Medon/Person (ΝΙΚΗΣΑΣ ΠΑΡΘΩΝ/ΜΗΔΩΝ/ΠΕΡΣΩΝ)
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    Default Re: Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

    I think he meant "pater patriae", "father of the fatherland/homeland".
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    Default Re: Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

    Edited that one, thanks machinor

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    Well I seem to have a few ideas:

    Maybe...
    "The butcher"
    "The horseman"
    "The Elder, The younger" (not to original but it could fitt)
    "The warrior" - maybe ideal for Spartans
    "The poet"
    "The philosopher"
    "The builder"
    "The slayer of barbarians" (maybe)

    Not all are truly positive but there have to be names for other Hellenistic rulers or not so great Kings..
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    Default Re: Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

    You're welcome.
    Regarding "freedom-giver"... couldn't that also be called Apeleuther...something? Since the Apeleutheroi are "those who are freed" and the "freedom-giver" would be "the one who sets free" or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunGeneral View Post
    Well I seem to have a few ideas:

    Maybe...
    "The butcher" - Sphageus (ΣΦΑΓΕΥΣ)
    "The horseman" - Ippeus (ΙΠΠΕΥΣ)
    "The Elder, The younger" (not to original but it could fitt) - Ho Geraioteros, Ho Neoteros (Ο ΓΗΡΑΙΟΤΕΡΟΣ, Ο ΝΕΟΤΕΡΟΣ)
    "The warrior" - maybe ideal for Spartans - Polemistes (ΠΟΛΕΜΙΣΤΗΣ)
    "The poet" - Poietes (ΠΟΙΗΤΗΣ)
    "The philosopher" - Philosophos (ΦΙΛΟΣΟΦΟΣ)
    "The builder" - Dometor or Ktistes (ΔΟΜΗΤΩΡ, ΚΤΙΣΤΗΣ)
    "The slayer of barbarians" (maybe) - Barbaroktonos (ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΚΤΟΝΟΣ)

    Not all are truly positive but there have to be names for other Hellenistic rulers or not so great Kings..
    Here.

    Quote Originally Posted by machinor View Post
    You're welcome.
    Regarding "freedom-giver"... couldn't that also be called Apeleuther...something? Since the Apeleutheroi are "those who are freed" and the "freedom-giver" would be "the one who sets free" or something.
    Not that I know of. Apeleutherotes could only be used, which, as I mentioned, means 'Liberator'.

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