Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

[machinor]

You're welcome.
Regarding "freedom-giver"... couldn't that also be called Apeleuther...something? Since the Apeleutheroi are "those who are freed" and the "freedom-giver" would be "the one who sets free" or something.

[Maion Maroneios]

Well I seem to have a few ideas:

Maybe...
"The butcher" - Sphageus (ΣΦΑΓΕΥΣ)
"The horseman" - Ippeus (ΙΠΠΕΥΣ)
"The Elder, The younger" (not to original but it could fitt) - Ho Geraioteros, Ho Neoteros (Ο ΓΗΡΑΙΟΤΕΡΟΣ, Ο ΝΕΟΤΕΡΟΣ)
"The warrior" - maybe ideal for Spartans - Polemistes (ΠΟΛΕΜΙΣΤΗΣ)
"The poet" - Poietes (ΠΟΙΗΤΗΣ)
"The philosopher" - Philosophos (ΦΙΛΟΣΟΦΟΣ)
"The builder" - Dometor or Ktistes (ΔΟΜΗΤΩΡ, ΚΤΙΣΤΗΣ)
"The slayer of barbarians" (maybe) - Barbaroktonos (ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΚΤΟΝΟΣ)

Not all are truly positive but there have to be names for other Hellenistic rulers or not so great Kings..

Here.

You're welcome.
Regarding "freedom-giver"... couldn't that also be called Apeleuther...something? Since the Apeleutheroi are "those who are freed" and the "freedom-giver" would be "the one who sets free" or something.

Not that I know of. Apeleutherotes could only be used, which, as I mentioned, means 'Liberator'.

Maion

[machinor]

Oh. I comlpetely overlooked "Liberator".

[Lysimachos]

I see this is developing nicely, this is exactly what I had in mind when opening the thread. Thanks for all ideas and especially for the translations! Keep 'em coming!

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Nice thread! I just broke my empire for a civil war. Can you tell me the names for the two rivalling factions?

Makedonian Nobles = Eugeneis Makedonikoi ?

Makedonian Royalists = ??? Makedonikoi ?

[Maion Maroneios]

Nice thread! I just broke my empire for a civil war. Can you tell me the names for the two rivalling factions?

Makedonian Nobles = Eugeneis Makedones

Makedonian Royalists = Makedones Basilophrones

Cool Centurio! See bold parts for the translations.

Maion

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Thx Maion.

[Βελισάριος]

So if "The slayer of barbarians" is "Barbaroktonos (ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΚΤΟΝΟΣ)" then the Slayer of Celts would be Keltoktonos?
[That, by the way, was historically Burebista (or Buruista)'s nickname]

Oh, and what about "Nautes" in feminine? (OK, the reason I keep asking for names in feminine is because I'm making a collection for Greek ship names... taking notes for an Argonaut AAR :p)

[HunGeneral]

This thread is really becoming great.

Did the ancient hellenes have an Epithet for
"the lion"
"ruler of all hellenes" - in this case not just of thoose in hellas but of all Hellenes in the world.
"lord of all the seas and land under the sky" - I bit fantasy like but is there a similar term?

I would also have another question: could anyone tell me how expressions like "Europe of the Seleucids", "Europe of the nomads", "horsemen of the east", "horsemen of hades" might have sounded like in ancient Greek. (I quess my fantasy got a bit too loose)

[machinor]

This thread is really becoming great.

Did the ancient hellenes have an Epithet for
"the lion"
"ruler of all hellenes" - in this case not just of thoose in hellas but of all Hellenes in the world.
"lord of all the seas and land under the sky" - I bit fantasy like but is there a similar term?

I would also have another question: could anyone tell me how expressions like "Europe of the Seleucids", "Europe of the nomads", "horsemen of the east", "horsemen of hades" might have sounded like in ancient Greek. (I quess my fantasy got a bit too loose)

IIRC, "Lion" would be "Leonidas" (ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ). "Ruler of all Hellenes" would probably be "Hellenokrator" (ΈΛΛΗΝΟΚΡΑΤΩΡ).

[Maion Maroneios]

So if "The slayer of barbarians" is "Barbaroktonos (ΒΑΡΒΑΡΟΚΤΟΝΟΣ)" then the Slayer of Celts would be Keltoktonos?
[That, by the way, was historically Burebista (or Buruista)'s nickname]

Oh, and what about "Nautes" in feminine? (OK, the reason I keep asking for names in feminine is because I'm making a collection for Greek ship names... taking notes for an Argonaut AAR :p)

Keltoktonos is correct. Don't know about Burebista. As for Nautes, really I'm not sure. I know how it is in modern Greek, though I'm not sure about ancient.

This thread is really becoming great.

Did the ancient hellenes have an Epithet for
"the lion"
"ruler of all hellenes" - in this case not just of thoose in hellas but of all Hellenes in the world.
"lord of all the seas and land under the sky" - I bit fantasy like but is there a similar term?

I would also have another question: could anyone tell me how expressions like "Europe of the Seleucids", "Europe of the nomads", "horsemen of the east", "horsemen of hades" might have sounded like in ancient Greek. (I quess my fantasy got a bit too loose)

The Lion - Leon
Ruler of the Hellenes - Hellenokrator (ΕΛΛΗΝΟΚΡΑΤΩΡ)
Ruler of the seas - Thalassokrator (ΘΑΛΑΣΣΟΚΡΑΤΩΡ)
Ruler of the land/world - Gaiokrator/Kosmokrator (ΓΑΙΟΚΡΑΤΩΡ/ΚΟΣΜΟΚΡΑΤΩΡ)
Europe of the Seleucids/Nomads - He ton Seleukeidon/Nomadon Europe (Η ΤΩΝ ΣΕΛΕΥΚΕΙΔΩΝ/ΝΟΜΑΔΩΝ ΕΥΡΩΠΗ)
Horsemen of the East - Asiatikoi Hippeis or Hippeis ex Asias (ΑΣΙΑΤΙΚΟΙ ΙΠΠΕΙΣ, ΙΠΠΕΙΣ ΕΞ ΑΣΙΑΣ)
Horsemen of Hades - Hadou Hippeis (ΑΔΟΥ ΙΠΠΕΙΣ)

IIRC, "Lion" would be "Leonidas" (ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ). "Ruler of all Hellenes" would probably be "Hellenokrator" (ΈΛΛΗΝΟΚΡΑΤΩΡ).

Actually, Leonidas (ΛΕΩΝΙΔΑΣ, with an 'omega') is name with reference to a lion.

Maion

[Βελισάριος]

I vote we sticky this thread.
Thanks again, Maion. Burebista was the uniter of the Getai tribes, contemporary to Caesar, in case you were curious.

As for Nautes... what would it be in modern Greek, then? (feminine too)