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    Symbasileus ton Rhomaioktonon Member Maion Maroneios's Avatar
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    Default Re: Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

    Quote Originally Posted by HunGeneral View Post
    Youre right about that. However I was thinking of it as a "second epithet". Like Macilrille mentioned Antiochus IV had several epithets.

    I might just aswell give an exampel of what I mean since I'm not sure if I can describe it clearly: someting like "Megas (xy-insert name) The srtongest". The last part is reserved for the King who completes the unification and only for him. I can't really remember what gave me the Idea but if I remember I might post it - but I'm quite sure it wasn't greek.
    I see, so you're looking for somehting like: Megas X ho Dynatotatos, were X represents the guy's name. In stead of Dynatotatos (which is the superlative of Dynatos, which means 'Strong' in Greek), you could use Ischyrotatos.

    Quote Originally Posted by HunGeneral View Post
    By the way isn't Basileus ton Basileon a title? I believe used by some of the seleukid rulers or am I wrong?
    Well, Megas is also a title as well as an epithet, if you get my meaning. It was used by Seleucid kings, yes. But it was also used by the Pahlavans (Shahansablabla something) and other nations, including the Achaemenid Persians.

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    Default Re: Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

    Quote Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios View Post
    I see, so you're looking for somehting like: Megas X ho Dynatotatos, were X represents the guy's name. In stead of Dynatotatos (which is the superlative of Dynatos, which means 'Strong' in Greek), you could use Ischyrotatos.
    Exactly.
    Thanks for the translation - I might use it one day

    I remembered where I got this Idea of two or a second epithet reserved for one ruler... and I remembered right that it had nothing to do with Hellenes or the timeframe of EB:
    It was something like "Great King Attila Scourge of God".
    I remember to have heard it several times and that "supposedly" both Epithets are reserved for him, however it was made after his death or in the last years of his life - but I'm not sure.
    Last edited by HunGeneral; 01-28-2009 at 02:49.
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