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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus View Post
    Ooops, before I forget: I wanted to give my armies epithets too. Iirc, an army is stratos, right?
    Yep,that's right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus View Post
    "the Western" (because they have fought at the Pillars of Herakles, pretty big thing for them)? Hesperios perhaps?
    Well, Hesperia was the name the Hellenes gave to America. West is Dyse (ΔΥΣΗ), so maybe it could be Dytikos Stratos, or Western Army

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    "the First (Created)"? Protogonos?
    Protogonos means 'of the first generation'. Now create is 'poio' (ΠΟΙΩ), so I believe it should be Stratos Protopoiethes (ΠΡΩΤΟΠΟΙΗΘΗΣ).

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    "the Royal / King's Own"? OK that must be Basilikos
    Yes, Basilikos Stratos is fine.

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    "the Loyal / Reliable"?
    Pistos Stratos

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    "the Armoured"? Kataphraktos?
    Well, Kataphraktos means 'armored all over'. But it can be used. In that case, it would be, as you correctly stated, Stratos Kataphraktos.

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    Default AW: Hellenistic rulers: conceivable epithets

    Well, there is the "Periegesis Aithiopion Hesperion", that's why I thought that. The Greeks knew America???

    Thank you very much Maion.

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    I don't think so. But the mythological theme of a distant country separated from the rest of the world by a non-trivial barrier (mountains, deserts, seas) is quite common (the Chinese have their stories about such a country in their West; the Christians later had a story about a certain Presbyterian John somewhere too...) . Anyway back to this 'Hesperia' (night) country, IIRC it is the topos of one of the 12 tasks (if I am not mistaken, the one in which Herakles must fetch apples from the tree given to Hera as a wedding present).
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    Well, you might not think so but I won't go in debate with you (or anyone for that matter) about this topic. As for Hesperia, it means afternoon. Night is Nyx. What you said about the Heracles-thing is true though.

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    Ok, so... if lion is Leon, then "The Lion" would be... ?
    And what about: The Bull, The Gryphon? The Serpent?
    To settle the deal between Romans and Greeks once and for all... both Italy and Greece are in deep s*** at the moment. Do you really think who had the biggest spear in antiquity makes any difference?

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    Umm what about
    1.the demon?
    2.the bringer of death?
    3.The Greek word for America?
    4.the colored/rainbowed one?
    5.the restorer?
    6.the insane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burebista View Post
    Ok, so... if lion is Leon, then "The Lion" would be... ?
    And what about: The Bull, The Gryphon? The Serpent?
    The Lion would be Leon. Plain, no added stuff. As for Serpent, that would probably be Echydna. Don't know about Gryphon. Anyway, none of them would be used as an epithet for a ruler, mind you. Too fantasy-style if you get me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf Blackeyes View Post
    Umm what about
    1.the demon - Not very sure about that one
    2.the bringer of death - You are very into dark stuff aren't you? Anyway, Aggeliaphoros Thanatou (Messenger of Death) or Thanatophoros
    3.The Greek word for America - Esperia
    4.the colored/rainbowed one - Polychrous (many-colored) could probably work.
    5.the restorer - Could you make this more specific?
    6.the insane? - Epimanes
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