If you construct a type IV Gov do you have to have a client ruler?

**Conan** · 01-24-2009, 16:41

As the title of the post says really..

If you construct a type IV Gov do you have to have a client ruler?

With there up keep cost it just seems not worth it really...

A side question I playing as AS and have taken the Galatians settlement in Asia minor. Will I have to have a type IV gov installed to be able to recruit Galatians wild men?

Thanks

**Ludens** · 01-24-2009, 17:48

Technically you don't have to, but it's a bit of an exploit to install a type IV and then not assign a client ruler. The previous versions of EB automatically generated client rules through the script, but this was buggy and had to be replaced by the current system.

Galatian wild men can be recruited by a level 4 regional MIC. This level can built under a type III or IV government. The fifth level of regional MIC (which does require a type IV government) gives access to Galatian heavy cavalry (equivalent to Brihentin), but since you are the Seleucids, you probably don't need this unit. You can find this information in the recruitment viewer, that came with your EB install. The RV installer can be found in the extra subfolder in the R:TW root folder (not the EB subfolder).

**Conan** · 01-24-2009, 18:15

Excellent thanks Ludens

**davepyne** · 01-25-2009, 05:36

It can save you some time too if you recruit a couple extra allied generals to invade with so as soon as you conquer a settlement you can leave one of your allied generals in it and build a Type IV Gov. Now your allied general will become a client ruler. This gives you a client ruler one turn sooner than if you had recruited him from the city after building the type IV gov building.

**gamegeek2** · 01-25-2009, 06:16

Too bad those generals cost money to recruit...

**Nachtmeister** · 01-25-2009, 10:36

Originally Posted by davepyne

It can save you some time too if you recruit a couple extra allied generals to invade with so as soon as you conquer a settlement you can leave one of your allied generals in it and build a Type IV Gov. Now your allied general will become a client ruler. This gives you a client ruler one turn sooner than if you had recruited him from the city after building the type IV gov building.

Wasn't the new client ruler recruitment set up in such a way that removing a general from the province he was recruited in immediately after recruiting basically made him a warmonger/dedicated field general unsuitable for governing cities and removing him later made him a rebellious client?
If this is not so, can someone please confirm that client rulers are *adaptable*?
Would be an entirely new set of tactical options... (Especially for factions like KH who have no swift-moving cavalry generals/governors).

**Dayve** · 01-25-2009, 11:07

They're adaptable... It even says so in the "recruited general" trait. Just have him conquer a city, put in a type 4 and watch him turn into a governor.

**kekailoa** · 01-26-2009, 06:46

Actually, just to be obnoxious about stats, the Galatian heavy cav is equal to the Remi Mariepos (the belgian heavy cav).

They're just slightly better.

**Nistenf** · 01-27-2009, 22:23

Originally Posted by Dayve

They're adaptable... It even says so in the "recruited general" trait. Just have him conquer a city, put in a type 4 and watch him turn into a governor.

Yes, but once he's a governor, he can't become a general again, right?