Iberian Archers

**Barry Soteiro** · 01-24-2009, 21:21

This unit is present in Vanilla and a number of mods but not in EB ?

Why ?

Maybe in EBII ?

**Mjolnir** · 01-24-2009, 21:36

My guess would be that the EB team didn't feel that Iberians had a strong enough archery tradition to warrant their inclusion.

Balearic Slingers are so much better than archers anyway that you don't really need them.

**A Terribly Harmful Name** · 01-24-2009, 22:13

The description for Lusotannan Shepherd Slingers actually mentions archery was abandoned in Iberia after the Bronze Age.

**Reno Melitensis** · 01-25-2009, 17:38

Apart from the Belearic Slingers being the best missle infantry with the Cretan Archers in EB, if you want some cheap but overall good archers, there are the Nuragi (Sardinian Archers).

Cheers.

**Aemilius Paulus** · 01-25-2009, 18:13

Originally Posted by Barry Soteiro

This unit is present in Vanilla

Wait, what? Iberian Archers in Vanilla? Did they really exist? I have not played vanilla in ages, but with all my memory I do not recollect having encountered such unit.

**A Very Super Market** · 01-25-2009, 18:18

Cretans are the best? What? What about the super-long range Persian archers? Or the Rhodesian slingers?

**Tristuskhan** · 01-25-2009, 22:13

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Cretans are the best? What? What about the super-long range Persian archers? Or the Rhodesian slingers?

Rhodesians?

Anyway Cretans have one more ranged attack point and the same range than heavy persians.

**Fluvius Camillus** · 01-25-2009, 18:58

Cretans? Weren't Bosphoran Heavy Archers the best in the game? (I don't know about the Range though. Can somebody please compare

**antisocialmunky** · 01-25-2009, 19:33

I always heard that the Saka or Scythian archers were the best. Bosphorans and Persian Heavies are the best archer duelists. I mean, the range differences aren't THAT great. You just have to run a few steps closer.

**Zeibek** · 01-25-2009, 19:39

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

I always heard that the Saka or Scythian archers were the best. Bosphorans and Persian Heavies are the best archer duelists. I mean, the range differences aren't THAT great. You just have to run a few steps closer.

IIRC the Saka archers have the longest range, and when you work in the cost/effect ratio it could be argued that they are the best archers in the game.

I'm not sure about this, but I think that when it comes to stats the Cretans are superior to all others, including the Bosphorans. Though the Bosphorans do look at lot cooler...

**Olaf The Great** · 01-25-2009, 20:01

Originally Posted by Zeibek

IIRC the Saka archers have the longest range, and when you work in the cost/effect ratio it could be argued that they are the best archers in the game.

I'm not sure about this, but I think that when it comes to stats the Cretans are superior to all others, including the Bosphorans. Though the Bosphorans do look at lot cooler...

I know the cretans have eastern bows(unlike most westerners), how are they better than Bosophorans?

Also, what about Caucasian archers? They have 6 points of damage(compare to scythian and persian 4/5) and are ridiculously cheap.

**antisocialmunky** · 01-25-2009, 20:13

Caucasian units aren't fair to fight against but Hai's position isn't exactly fair either. Also, don't their descriptions say they used ridiculously large bows that shot javelin sized projectiles?