Palestinians in Gaza blaming ... Hamas?

[Hooahguy]

Is that like the professor who told you of the existance of a non-existant law ?

So from the Weisenthal center concerning holocaust survivors

no, not the same professor who told me about the existent law.
btw, can you post a link to the weisental center saying that?

claiming that Professor Lipstadt is lying is pretty serious. do you even know who she is?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Hooah, Tribes:

Both of you go to time out for a minute. BOTH of you are citing reasonably credible sources that have different estimates of the disposition of Jewish displaced persons. Getting offended or mocking, in either direction, at this point is poor argument.

Either:

1. Come up with DIFFERENT sources to corroborate your assertions, or

2. Go back to the primary data sources and count the results yourself, or

3. Agree to disagree on this point and find some other issue upon which to lambast one another.

[Tribesman]

Come up with DIFFERENT sources to corroborate your assertions,

Well I was going to go with the jewish virtual library , but they use Wiesenthal .
Then I considered getting a random list of survivors and seeing where they ended up ...blimey they get everywhere don't they
Perhaps I could go with Ami Izeroff as his site is very balanced and one of the most comprehensive on the foundation and development of Israel .
UNRRA isn't a bad idea either ....
Or I could go with a proffesor who rants that carter didn't put the nazis in his book about problems in Israel .

[Tribesman]

the first is to launch a barrage of laughing smileys to create the impression that whatever was said was so ridiculous that no one else need trouble themselves with looking at the facts themselves, for fear that they might reach a dissenting opinion.

Actually it is the opposite , one reason why I rarely post links is so that people can look up the facts themselves .

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Actually it is the opposite , one reason why I rarely post links is so that people can look up the facts themselves .

But links ENCOURAGE others to look up facts for themselves. Dumping the entire magazine or article into a quote box here just encourages folks to skip the information, so I understand why you don't do that. Linkees are NOT evil.

[Hooahguy]

yo tribesman- you still havent provided that link. ive searched the weisenthal center, but find nothing yet. still looking. i suspect that you are only quoting half of what the center said.
btw here is what the Jewish Virtual Library says: survivors

gee- i guess this puts to shame your argument that most survivors went home:

When people tried to return to their homes from camps or hiding places, they found that, in many cases, their homes had been looted or taken over by others.

Returning home was also dangerous. After the war, anti-Jewish riots broke out in several Polish cities. The largest anti-Jewish pogrom took place in July 1946 in Kielce, a city in southeastern Poland. When 150 Jews returned to the city, people living there feared that hundreds more would come back to reclaim their houses and belongings. Age-old antisemitic myths, such as Jews' ritual murders of Christians, arose once again. After a rumor spread that Jews had killed a Polish boy to use his blood in religious rituals, a mob attacked the group of survivors. The rioters killed 41 people and wounded 50 more. News of the Kielce pogrom spread rapidly, and Jews realized that there was no future for them in Poland.

and when i said "i swear by them" i meant that i swear that she said that, which is rare because jews arent really supposed to swear unless they really mean it.

more to come.

[Fragony]

More on the hero's of the socialist party.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057874.html

[Seamus Fermanagh]

More on the hero's of the socialist party.

Heroes to which socialist party? They're not all one big happy socialist party...despite some of the official platform planks that assert this.

Your link to Haaratz [sic?] is fine, but as a source it should be noted that it is not (nor does it claim to be) journalistically impartial.

[Fragony]

Ours,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23bM58hhFk8

[Furunculus]

that is the second of Tribesmans debating techniques;

which is to immediately google a contrary source in search of a piece of 'dirt', which is then advertised across the forum with magnificent disdain in an attempt to whitewash the entire issue to the majority who have not heard of the source.

the first is to launch a barrage of laughing smileys to create the impression that whatever was said was so ridiculous that no one else need trouble themselves with looking at the facts themselves, for fear that they might reach a dissenting opinion.

and the third is to bring obtuse to an art form by arguing around every central theme with the aim of creating a cloud of negative conjecture that completely obscures the position that tribesman wishes to suppress, displayed this evening in fact.

quite why he goes to all the effort i shall probably never know.

[Fragony]

Tribes likes to play it dirty and effective it is

[LittleGrizzly]

I don't see what difference the holocaust makes to all this anyway, it was over 60 years ago, if anything holding on to such fear or paranoia would likely more destroy you or cause other bad things rather than help out...

[Tribesman]

I don't see what difference the holocaust makes to all this anyway

Because its the key card , just as the shout of "anti-semitism" goes up any time anything bad is said about Israel even if the people who are saying it are Jewish ,the holocaust works on the lines that anytime someone says Israel is doing nasty stuff the defense is "but look at the Nazis" .

[Fragony]

Hamas wants to do the same as the nazi's did, they have to kill them wherever they find them, so that even the trees and stones they are hiding behind will cry out 'a jew!'. They are so blinded by hate and so paralyzed by their primitive bloodlust, that doesn't excuse them from firing rockets and missing or praying five times a day instead of growing crops.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Because its the key card , just as the shout of "anti-semitism" goes up any time anything bad is said about Israel even if the people who are saying it are Jewish ,the holocaust works on the lines that anytime someone says Israel is doing nasty stuff the defense is "but look at the Nazis" .

Pardon me, but did you just answer a point directly without parsiflage? I believe you did. This also justified your line of argument. Kudos!

[Tribesman]

Pardon me, but did you just answer a point directly without parsiflage?

Bollox .

But links ENCOURAGE others to look up facts for themselves.

Do they ?
How frequently do topics have people ranting on about a linked article when they havn't even read the article in the link ?
Or in this case how can someone write ....those are her words and i swear by them. ..when they clearly havn't even looked at the words they are swearing by .
There are other estimates ...errrrr a definative answer then ?
what is clear ......It’s hard to know .....we could never get a clear count
seems like a lot of contradictions to swear by doesn't it .

they have to kill them wherever they find them, so that even the trees and stones they are hiding behind will cry out 'a jew!'.

Hamas wants to do the same as the nazi's did

No Frag the Nazis wanted a thousand year reich run by what they deemed as superpeople , what you are quoting has been dealt with many many times before , its about the end of the world , so to quote one of the horsemen of the apocolypse .
Im a getting tired of this armageddon .

They are so blinded by hate

Says Mr. its the muslims muslims muslims