The Emerging Factions (Rebels and Revolutions)

[Paradox]

Sadly I think you are right. I doubt CA would put a faction with no land in. Instead they probably start with Scotland and then march on London. Or possibly they start with an army or two and have to take Scotland first.

Don't the Mongol hordes in M2TW start with no land? CA have applied landless factions before, especially in BI. I wasn't aware of the Jacobites until they were mentioned here.

[Sir Beane]

Don't the Mongol hordes in M2TW start with no land? CA have applied landless factions before, especially in BI. I wasn't aware of the Jacobites until they were mentioned here.

That's true actually. Both the Mongols and the Timurids start the game with no land and wander around until they take a city.

The Jacobites aren't a very well known part of history really. Not even in England. I only know about them because a local city, Derby, is famous for being the furthest place Bonnie Prince Charlie (the Jacobite leader) reached before he turned around. I've seen his statue in person. In fact I've used him as a bench.

[The New Che Guevara]

The Jacobites aren't a very well known part of history really. Not even in England. I only know about them because a local city, Derby, is famous for being the furthest place Bonnie Prince Charlie (the Jacobite leader) reached before he turned around. I've seen his statue in person. In fact I've used him as a bench.

That's because... firstly england is perfect, we have "never" had any prince rebellions 'cos the royal family is the only true one kind of british snobbishness. And secondly, we wont admit to losing a few to scotland. When do you ever learn about the wars of independance? It's stupid, we cant even learn about the empire! presumably out of fear that people will create new ones or the idea of the slave trade. We've even lost the title Great Britain, we were great once, onw look at us, scotland almost running away ireland previously back from mayhem after we've been there since at least the tudor era, wa;es still not knowing what to do with the assembly they've been given. The so called united Kingdom is breaking up.... whatever happened...

oh and If you think I might be right wing... I prefer the left... I slide about the scale ever so much...

and to stay on topic...

in a revolution, what would decide the political outcome as in say re-enacting the russian revolution (october) earlier. what would control the political side of it?

[lenin96]

I was a bit anoyed when CA said that when the people rebel they will always want a Republic, surly not all people in these times wanted a Republic, like Prussia for example.

[Polemists]

I agree...mobs should have individual desires....like a mob of CA fans...who desire.......a demo


Sooner or later CA will see these posts :P on to topic


I don't think they will all went republic, I mean when nobles revolt they should desire to go back, and peasants the desire to go forward.

So if peasants uprise they want the next liberty stage Monarchy=Parlimentary/Constitutional, P/C=Republic.

If nobles uprise they want the older ways, so Republic=P/C and Monarchy=Parliment.

because if your a noble, why would you want the people to have more power?

[Sir Beane]

I can only ever see the people wanting to put a king on the throne if they had jiust suffered through a spectacularly poorly run democracy and had fond memories of the old king. Otherwise putting a king on the throne is like shotting yourself in the foot for the common person.

Under a Consitutional Monarchy or a Republic the people have rights, a vote and a say in things. Under a monarchy they have no rights at all, except those they can claim at the point of a pitchfork.

While I agree that peasants would not always want the same thing the simplified system CA are using seems like it has the potential to work really well and not be confusing, which is good.

[Polemists]

the people sure but not the nobility.

If you were a noble under King Louis, and now the people have a Parlimental Monarchy, you have no power. Your lands are going to be taken shortly. Your finances are bleak. All you have is a title with little financial holdings.

Now, you hear that the "people" were dumb enough to attack england and prussia at the same time and France just lost half of it's holdings overseas.

I'm pretty sure you are going to want to go back to the monarchy. So you'd gather a armed revolt, grab random unknown child of line whatever, and charge the gates.

I can't see nobles going, "I want you to vote."

Of course they may want you to vote

If that vote

was for


A DEMO