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    Thanks Maion for clearing me up

    Can this be turned on and off during battles? - I can understand its useles but it sounds interresting to try when the enemy is far away or look that way while your troops are climbing the enemy walls. (where you have nothing better to do than watch)

    By the way: In some of the screenshots in the competition I could see that the units had no factional banners (except those a banner-carrier had in hand) - how did they do that? Are thoose pictures edited or can this also be set? (sorry for such silly questions but I don't have much experience changing the setting - besides I found no such setting among he options...)
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    If I'm not mistaken, General Cam is "turned on" just by hitting Delete and following your General unit; hence, you can stop doing so whenever you wish.

    Banners can be adjusted using the EB Configuration or EB Preferences shortcut IIRC.

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    Whatever you do, don't talk to them like they don't know how to use a computer, every single teacher in my old school thought that everybody was a bunch of savages who didn't know what a computer was.
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    Our school had Simcity on the computers. I wish we had EB too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Herenow View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, General Cam is "turned on" just by hitting Delete and following your General unit; hence, you can stop doing so whenever you wish.
    There is actually a setting in the options menu that sticks the camera close to the general. I tried to play with it, but it's very difficult. You have to position your general so that he has a good overview, or else you won't be able to control your flanks. You could off course turn over control of the army to the A.I., but because you cannot order the A.I. it will always mess up your battleplan, so I never do.

    Edit: it's sounds like a very interesting idea, TA, although I am curious how much they will pick up. Let us know how it turns out. Sorry for spamming your topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    There is actually a setting in the options menu that sticks the camera close to the general. I tried to play with it, but it's very difficult. You have to position your general so that he has a good overview, or else you won't be able to control your flanks. You could off course turn over control of the army to the A.I., but because you cannot order the A.I. it will always mess up your battleplan, so I never do.
    I can't remember but doesn't giving AI control still allow you to give commands?

    Still wouldn't use it but still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilder View Post
    I can't remember but doesn't giving AI control still allow you to give commands?

    Still wouldn't use it but still.
    Yep, its like telling your boys to flee, they break but can be "un-broken" again.

    I play with general cam on these days for flavour. You really have to think about position and sometimes the general sits on a hilltop for the whole battle directing traffic and can't get into the flanking charges, which I find delicous. If I want to get my hands bloody I run the risk of losing control of the battle which is a sweet little choice to be faced with.

    With my current Sweboz campaign (230 BC and I'm about to descend on Roman Mediolanum) my generals sit front and square on the battle line so I can usually see the whole shebang. It was different as Lussotannan, they're a bit softer targets.

    I haven't put units out of LOS on AI control yet, maybe I'll give it a whirl tonight. "Dammit, I told you to hold the flank, not countercharge!"
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    Am I the only one thinking EB could revolutionize history lessons? I mean, that EB could be one of the first steps in the direction of making simulators of historical events that allow students to see the world exactly as it was at the time of the events? I mean, like a flight simulator, just for history students (I really shouldn't be making that remark, as I know immensely little of flight simulators, so don't know what I'm talking about, but whatever)
    Moreover, I advise that Syracusans must be added to EB (insp. by Cato the Elder )

    Is looking forward to the 2090's, when EB 20.0 will be released - spanning the entire Eurasian continent and having no Eleutheroi - with a faction for every independent state instead. Look out for the Gedrosians, the Cretans and the kingdom of Kallatis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by artaxerxes View Post
    Am I the only one thinking EB could revolutionize history lessons? I mean, that EB could be one of the first steps in the direction of making simulators of historical events that allow students to see the world exactly as it was at the time of the events? I mean, like a flight simulator, just for history students (I really shouldn't be making that remark, as I know immensely little of flight simulators, so don't know what I'm talking about, but whatever)
    I don't think you're the only one at all who thinks like this (see all the comments above!). Simulators like this are already used on TV shows on this history channel. I may be mistaken; but I believe Vanilla RTW was used extensively for Roman-era battles.

    Using EB or EB-like programs is just as accurate as using a flight simulator because they both lack complete realism. While you may be able to maneuver a plane technically correctly, and the gravity/physics engine may be damn near perfect, you'll still never have that feeling in the pit of your stomach when your plane starts to stall or the nerves that would be frazzled in real life attempting to put down a 747 loaded with fuel and 300 human lives in a huge thunderstorm with an engine gone. The same thing goes for the human element in the battles of EB or planning campaigns / doing diplomacy etc.
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    ... Hoping that won't be an escamotage for playing EB at work, TK.
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    I remember when I was in high school... I & II gymnasium at classic licaeum, and my history teacher asked ME, a 14 years old boy, which mark I preferred to give myself in her subject... She didn't know if what I wrote in homeworks or class test was right or wrong...Quite confusing for me...

    Years later I've understood how works the italian school system, so I stopped wasting my time and looked for a job. The grim reality...

    Now, my 13 years old brother, 1,50m tall, still watching cartoons on Disney Channel (sometimes "Cheetah girls" too ) treats his teacher ironically about political europe's geography... What's the capital city of Hungary?
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