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    I WAS THE FINAL NEPHILIM!!!



    Quicktopic for us:
    http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/vNXqGGLAsbv

    This last night phase I was allowed to kill two people:


    Other stuff can be explained at will - I shall post up other PMs later.
    Oh you would be be done then.

    The night order before the game ended:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlax
    Here is my night order:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFlax
    I will scan the thoughts of CountArach tonight.
    Again I had a limited poll to pick from since I decided to remain inconspicuous during this day phase. I doubt CountArach is not a townie, but I could always get lucky I guess. It seems Ichigo and Warman are even less ''active'' than I and as per the rules I think Ichigo will be WOGed soon. (4 posts in total, 1 vote on day 2, and two posts to say he's sorry he missed voting. If he doesn't show up next day to vote, he's out.)

    Good going with boudica by the way.
    Edit: Nevermind, you would be innocent because of your role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenk Roink View Post
    Edit: Nevermind, you would be innocent because of your role.
    Haha yeah - and hence by being shown as innocent I would have a cruise to the very end of the game.
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    I read your guys quicktopic, good stuff!

    Pretty funny how we were suspicious of Rythmic and boudica from the start and you of TheFlax and then me pretty early too.

    However, we did get the upper hand easily, go Psi Corp!

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    What i want to know is how on earth did seireikhaan get me down as a mafia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YLC
    You wait until everyone else has left the Flight Deck before sliding into one of the computer consoles, intent on finding out as much as possible on a man named Marcus Adams. As you search through the files, it appears the man is quite insane. You quickly note his name down in your mind as well as his alias "Ares", and have the machine send you the full report to your room...


    I assumed that "quite insane" was code for nephilim/nephilim influenced/vulnerable to nephilim.
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    I was a simple captured marine (no power role) who was pro town

    Out of interest was this whole prisnors vs captors a distraction or was that some kind of goal ??

    Just curious because i was annoyed at players going for pro towners because they were a different race, Racism i say !!
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    Sorry, I never could get my head around this game..

    I should reduce the number of game I take part in


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    Quote Originally Posted by YLC
    ...Opening Database...
    ...Retrieving Personal Data files...
    ...Displaying Bio and Vital Statistics...

    Subject: Balthasar Royce, the Nephilim "Wrath"
    Age: 22
    Gender: Male
    Height: 6'5"
    Weight: 267lbs

    Subject Status: AWOL Psi Corp Operative
    Psychological Report: Known as the Nephilim "Wrath" (Mafia). Balthasar Royce was once an excellent Psychometrist for the Psi Corp, working effectively in investigations and with the victims. It was said that of all of the Psi Corp, Balthasar still truly had a heart. But it was his heart, that was his undoing.

    A particularly brutal case strained Balthasar beyond his limits -not only did the perpetrator commit his actions in broad daylight and escape, but no one around bothered to help and instead stayed away. His raging emotions quickly got the better of him as he tracked the man down, resulting in the serial killer killing Balthasar's own partners, including his love Milda, in the middle of a busy open mall.

    Balthasar went mad with fury and killed each person, screaming in agony and guilt, and filling each person's mind with his own pain, with the images in his head, before killing them. Balthasar is currently rogue, and must be brought to justice, for the safety of all involved.
    Psionic Abilities: Balthasar was once a psychometrist, but his powers have warped and twisted as he struggled to deal with that terrible day. He know reveals a person's flaws and "evil" inside them, before brutally killing them. Once each day, Balthasar may select one person to kill, but only if that person voted for another person with 3 or more votes and was the third or higher person to vote. This is in addition to the Nephilim kill each night.

    If Balthasar is the only one left, he will become extremely violent and be able to kill two people per night instead of one.

    Because of the brutal nature of his ability, Balthasar must be within the same Location of his target.

    Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.
    Thoughts? My abilities were severely hampered by the location rule.
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    Teehee! I knew that the signs boudica did meant she was Mafia! I won't reveal what it was, however, since I may use it to discover she is Mafia in future games.
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    Subject: Corporal Glyphz
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    Subject Status: Engineer aboard the JCNC Ravager
    Psychological Report: Loyal Member of the JCNC (Pro-Town). Due to security risks, access is denied to your psychological profile during the current time. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.
    Access Privileges: Access Denied. All non-vital personnel have had their security level reduced to minimum for the current duration. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    Teehee! I knew that the signs boudica did meant she was Mafia! I won't reveal what it was, however, since I may use it to discover she is Mafia in future games.
    Oh come on Jolt! What's my tell? I guess that fact that I rang the 'Reenktuition' bell straight form the off means it can't be all that complex... give me a break I'm new at this!

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    ...Opening Database...
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    Subject: Miriam Ostranovii Goebel, the Nephilim "Lust"
    Age: 34
    Gender: Female
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 128lbs

    Subject Status: AWOL Psi Corp Operative
    Psychological Report: Known as the Nephilim "Lust' (Mafia). Miriam Goebel was once a loyal member of the Psi Corp, but her husband, Edmund Goebel, was killed one day by the Director of the 6th Psi Corp when he sent Edmund on a suicide mission. Much of the case is shrouded in mystery, but Edmund at the time had supposedly been working for the investigations department of the ECD and had uncovered evidence that the Director of the 6th was embezzling funds.

    Miriam was devastated by his death, especially considering she was his operator for the mission and heard him die. At the time, Miriam was also pregnant with Edmunds child, and due to the stress, went into labor and was escorted to the Hospital. The birth of her daughter was successful, however, the child almost immediately went missing, and in her grief, Miriam left her bed to find her child, seemingly lost and crazed. Her body was later found, covered in her blood, inside the Hospital elevator at the ground floor.

    However, it has been confirm she has been sighted yet again, leading many to believe her stress levels induced a Nephilim transformation. This makes her an extremely dangerous and unknown entity. A mission has already been dispatched to either retrieve her her or eliminate her.
    Psionic Abilities: Miriam Goebel was Telepath, however, her abilities focused exclusively on the manipulation of emotions. Miriam is capable of selecting one person, and forcing them to act to her will - her favored tactic is to have them fall in love with her. The targeted subject will protect Miriam at night, and during the day will vote however she wishes.

    Because of the intimate nature of her ability, Miriam must be within the same Location of her target.

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    First of all - big thanks to YLC for organising this one, I really enjoyed the scenario, and although I understand that this was meant to be a much larger game, featuring many different nephilim abilities, I still think that with a touch more luck mafia would have stood a very slim chance. As it happened we failed to order a kill on the first night and from the write-ups of others got really unlucky by being investigated etc. - although as I apparently had already set off the Reenktuition alarm bells, I must hold my hands up to that too I guess. That said, there was alot going against mafia survival. I think the location rules make an interesting variation, but it would become very easy for town, or affiliated roles to identify the mafia through process of quarantine due to the fact that kills needed to be made in the same location. It might have gone to the wire, but the odds were stacked against mafia.

    I think i mentioned in our private chat room that it would have been hard enough to win, due to the location rules - not to mention the pretty explicit write-ups - even if we HADN'T been being hunted by another mafia faction!

    So I picked shlinn to be my 'bodyguard' on night 1 and got him to vote Chaotix the next day. He was killed night 2 defending me against Reenk's attack.

    I then attempted to kill Reenk on the night he attacked Rythmic/Psychonaut], and all that happened was it forced a stand off, I then found out from YLC that the only way to affect the Operative was to use our powers on him. Finding out that Seireikhaan being the detective was great: We set about using CountArach's 'deceit' ability to fool him into thinking Ares was mafia and I was relying on appearing innocent to him when he investigated me. Unfortunately I appeared to be just as guilty due to lack of information as I would have done if I'd had a big red meatball painted on my spacesuit, so - already called out by Reenk - I was forced to make up a quick fake role and joined the 'reveal' party :) I didn't expect it to work, but consider the fact that it allowed my survival for one more day to be my main achievement in the game.

    So using my Lust ability on Reenk - to make him vote Khaan and stop trying to kill me - was pretty high on the agenda! I wrote my thoughts about how that went on the private chatlog. TO be honest I was a little put out that Reenk went WAY out of character to explain his voting behaviour. I'm assuming he wasn't restricted by the Lust conditions that shlinn was given by YLC ie. instant WoGing if he revealed he was under Nephilim control - is that the case Reenk?

    But by that point I was already living on borrowed time and it was no great suprise to be lynched. I'm guessing that if he played his cards right that CA might have managed to survive a little longer, but I predict that even without Operatives on his back, the location rule would have finished off our chances of a mafia win anyway.

    There is plenty that I feel was flawed in this variant, but plenty that worked really well, and the writing was great, so I'd be happy to discuss it further with anyone who wants to...

    Anyway, thanks again to YLC - this game, along with reading through ATPG's GOlden RUle, have inspired me to try my hand at hosting a small game - and I hope your connection problems clear up soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by boudica View Post
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    Finding out that Seireikhaan being the detective was great: We set about using CountArach's 'deceit' ability to fool him into thinking Ares was mafia and I was relying on appearing innocent to him when he investigated me. Unfortunately I appeared to be just as guilty due to lack of information as I would have done if I'd had a big red meatball painted on my spacesuit, so - already called out by Reenk - I was forced to make up a quick fake role and joined the 'reveal' party :) I didn't expect it to work, but consider the fact that it allowed my survival for one more day to be my main achievement in the game.
    @ framing Ares. Great play.

    Had you opted for a Jovian or ECD vanilla role as cover in stead of the HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS sole survivor of Lost Haven, you would not have been lynched.
    I would have supported you against RR.
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    Mortal men may live and die due to your charms Lust, but Reenkfaust only desires killing and deciet.

    The stuff I got from YLC made it seem like I only was "agreeing" to work with you. Later I was told I must vote as you should, but nope, no WoG for the expose.

    Man, I was so badass in this role, I didn't even know I shrugged off kill attempts (it seemed like a pathetic but pretty woman just begged me to stop killing the beastie).

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    Sad that YLC couldn't finish this game. He had spoken to me about it when he was building it. Had he given me all the role PMs and a sense of how to continue, I might have been able to finish hosting it for him. He asked me on several occasions to help him with his writing, and I did a little "editor" work for him (not much, though) I think I could have muddled through somehow. I skimmed the thread, and I do have to say the setup and the writeups were fantastic.

    A round of drinks for our friend YLC, on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boudica View Post
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    First of all - big thanks to YLC for organising this one, I really enjoyed the scenario, and although I understand that this was meant to be a much larger game, featuring many different nephilim abilities, I still think that with a touch more luck mafia would have stood a very slim chance. As it happened we failed to order a kill on the first night and from the write-ups of others got really unlucky by being investigated etc. - although as I apparently had already set off the Reenktuition alarm bells, I must hold my hands up to that too I guess. That said, there was alot going against mafia survival. I think the location rules make an interesting variation, but it would become very easy for town, or affiliated roles to identify the mafia through process of quarantine due to the fact that kills needed to be made in the same location. It might have gone to the wire, but the odds were stacked against mafia.

    I think i mentioned in our private chat room that it would have been hard enough to win, due to the location rules - not to mention the pretty explicit write-ups - even if we HADN'T been being hunted by another mafia faction!

    So I picked shlinn to be my 'bodyguard' on night 1 and got him to vote Chaotix the next day. He was killed night 2 defending me against Reenk's attack.

    I then attempted to kill Reenk on the night he attacked Rythmic/Psychonaut], and all that happened was it forced a stand off, I then found out from YLC that the only way to affect the Operative was to use our powers on him. Finding out that Seireikhaan being the detective was great: We set about using CountArach's 'deceit' ability to fool him into thinking Ares was mafia and I was relying on appearing innocent to him when he investigated me. Unfortunately I appeared to be just as guilty due to lack of information as I would have done if I'd had a big red meatball painted on my spacesuit, so - already called out by Reenk - I was forced to make up a quick fake role and joined the 'reveal' party :) I didn't expect it to work, but consider the fact that it allowed my survival for one more day to be my main achievement in the game.

    So using my Lust ability on Reenk - to make him vote Khaan and stop trying to kill me - was pretty high on the agenda! I wrote my thoughts about how that went on the private chatlog. TO be honest I was a little put out that Reenk went WAY out of character to explain his voting behaviour. I'm assuming he wasn't restricted by the Lust conditions that shlinn was given by YLC ie. instant WoGing if he revealed he was under Nephilim control - is that the case Reenk?

    But by that point I was already living on borrowed time and it was no great suprise to be lynched. I'm guessing that if he played his cards right that CA might have managed to survive a little longer, but I predict that even without Operatives on his back, the location rule would have finished off our chances of a mafia win anyway.

    There is plenty that I feel was flawed in this variant, but plenty that worked really well, and the writing was great, so I'd be happy to discuss it further with anyone who wants to...

    Anyway, thanks again to YLC - this game, along with reading through ATPG's GOlden RUle, have inspired me to try my hand at hosting a small game - and I hope your connection problems clear up soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by 777Ares777 View Post
    why do you all hate me!? (in high estranged voice)
    No-one picked you out specifically - we just hoped to incriminate anyone innocent that khaan investigated ... 'hate' is just too strong a word

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    That only leaves White_eyes:D ??

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    I had a crappy role...... when I have a good role I tend to play well.....when I have a bad role(townie)...I tend to go for death early.... In Family guy Mafia I had a role in which I could not be lynched or killed but could die by common methods(vigilante,investigation) In Neverwinter Mafia I was a lynch win role....... In Godfather 3 I was a grunt and you saw how far I made it... but in YLC's Mafias......I always get crap roles.....

    Edit: I mean you had a kick- role on whispers in the night....who could claim to be a Pro-town/Mafia/Serial Killer role in one game
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    Quote Originally Posted by White_eyes:D View Post
    I have a good role I tend to play well.....when I have a bad role(townie)...I tend to go for death early....
    This statement may be held as evidence in future games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintus.JC View Post
    This statement may be held as evidence in future games.
    True.....but I could be Pro-town

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    Deeply sorry for having to end this game so soon, but allow me an explanation as to some of the rules.

    The mafia were not infact outnumbered, and the Operatives were more protown then they thought. Each Power Role (and any 2 town roles) had the possibility of becoming mafia through Lust's ability. If Lust snagged a townie, at the beginning of the second night, he would have become either Judas or Brutus, a Nephilim Minor that would act as a permenant bodyguard for Lust, with a 50% of surviving the attack, the ability of performing a mafia kill (so long as there was both Brutus and Judas), and the ability to cover for Lust incase she was to be lynched (possibly requiring 3 lynching to kill her *gasp*). Power Roles each had a Nephilim Major they would turn into upon the beginning of the third night under "Lustful" influence- Grigorii -> Dread, Seraphina -> Sorrow, Markus -> Gluttony, Dmitrii (You all know him as Tvormirov from the wrightups) -> Madness. Only Reimon Leclair was immune to conversion, and thus the only person ingame that the mafia HAD to kill.

    However, Guntram Faust was the one person they did NOT want to kill. Upon the fourth night, Guntram Faust would have become "The Nephilim Chaos" - He would have gained unlimited night and day kills, could use anyone elses abilities, was immune to anyone elses abilities, and could not be lynched - in essence, the game would continue at his whim only, guarenteing a mafia victory.

    This was the reason for the location dependant kill - there would be so many Nephilim popping up that it would be almost impossible to discern who was what, since the mafia could have a maximum of 4 kills per night (Brutus/Judas kill, Starting mafia kill, Wrath Ability, and Recruited mafia kill).

    However, Reenk and TheFlax tore it apart by basically guessing right from the beginning who was mafia, thus limiting Lusts use.

    You will notice that I included 4 investigators, and for good reason - to sow dissent, and create confusion. Most games only have 1-2 at max, so 4 people claiming investigator means you would end up only believing barely half of them, and more then likely lynching your own Power Roles

    However, this is all theory, and on paper it looked good, but it seems the Psi Corp this game was imbued with Godlike powers over probability

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    wow! ...and damn!

    Glad to see you back anyway YLC

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    Indeed, I kept this knowledge from you because it would have aversely affected your play - you needed to hide, and if you knew you could convert, you would have fished for roles.

    Also, to clarify for Chaotix's ability - he could turn someone into the Machaena "Kratos", the only real competitor to the raw power of Guntram - he had no vote, but he could also not be killed, and essentially acted as a bodyguard for the Good Doctor, who could then become a vanilla doctor role. Kratos was immune to all non-protown abilities, meaning even Guntram, as Chaos, could not kill him. In essence, he was the final solution, the one way, even when the town had basically lost, to pull a tie out of nowhere - this is all provided that Doctor Tvormirov had not DIED (which would have happened this game, since the Psi Corp set everyone up ).

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    Great game YLC and thanks for hosting.

    I honestly did not think that things were going very well for RR and myself, until everyone revealed at the end.

    Throughout the game I was convinced that mafia could kill from any location without restriction and that only my partner (RR) was limited by locations. My early posts were thus aimed at sowing doubt about the certainty many had about the killings tied to locations. So while I got lucky in picking who I investigated, I was totally off in trying to find out who were the killers based on the killings.

    Hopefully a uber Guntram would not have killed me.
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    Great game YLC and thanks for hosting.

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    Hopefully a uber Guntram would not have killed me.
    Agreed. And uh-uh - he TOTALLY would.

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    Yes, but Uber Guntram could have also killed his own mafia partners Don't think your special .

    I just hope this role does not go to Reenk's head >>.
    Last edited by ULC; 03-12-2009 at 19:02.

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    Good to have you back YLC

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