The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

Thread: The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

  1. Beefy187's Avatar

    Beefy187 said:

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    Good luck, Beefster!



    See you after the game ends with wailing and gnashing of teeth and clenching of fists... mostly from me.



    I am still having fun over here. This is delightful.
    Cheers
    I hope you prevail Pizza man.. Or ales towns are likely to throw your corpse in the pit of Shark with frikkin razors

    My advice for the town is to think your self rather then going with the thoughts of other dead Maestros (now I pray that my language skill is awesome)

    I hope we get a good finale
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  2. Lord Winter's Avatar

    Lord Winter said:

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    @AskthePizza guy you need to consolidate your case more, your going all over the place and even contradicting yourself. First of all you state both me and Saski are guilty but according to your previous logic anyone who tried to lynch me is innocent. You've been using it as a defense all game. Now you're saying that the person who lead my lynch is guilty, but your not because of one vote on me? Fallices like that are everywhere in your logic. No ones guilt is proven, Teevesh could be innocent, I am innocent (we won't go there unless you want to). Silence prove nothing. Tincow is right, this game has produced far more information then we need and now is the time to start consolidating it and making it usable.
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  3. Askthepizzaguy's Avatar

    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Winter View Post
    @AskthePizza guy you need to consolidate your case more, your going all over the place and even contradicting yourself. First of all you state both me and Saski are guilty but according to your previous logic anyone who tried to lynch me is innocent. You've been using it as a defense all game. Now you're saying that the person who lead my lynch is guilty, but your not because of one vote on me? Fallices like that are everywhere in your logic. No ones guilt is proven, Teevesh could be innocent, I am innocent (we won't go there unless you want to). Silence prove nothing. Tincow is right, this game has produced far more information then we need and now is the time to start consolidating it and making it usable.
    Nope.

    If the Godfather can recruit, the idea is to lynch a bunch of mafioso and prove your own innocence.

    Is it any wonder you've been quiet all this time? And I'm not the Godfather, so everything else you've said about me being suspect is basically irrelevant.

    My case is based on evidence that cannot be fabricated, and your silence until now, speaks volumes. You defend Ares too.... why not send a message to TevashSzat and have him show up? Why not dial up mafioso from previous games to defend Ares.

    I've already restated my case in a very short brief amount several times.

    1. Ares is the best candidate based on who is accusing him, and who is NOT.
    2. Ares has been active every night barring his one absence.
    3. Ares had suspected me, then reversed for NO REASON.
    4. Ares has been reluctant to make big decisions or produce suspects other than the easiest possible targets.
    5. SkyNet has totally pointed the finger at him.
    6. pevergreen, the only living townie we can trust, due to YLC's suicide, thinks Ares is guilty
    7. Everyone who is defending Ares has a reason to. Either dead mafioso, or recruited mafioso.
    8. You haven't helped us all game, and murders dropped to one after you died.
    9. Sasaki was ID'ed as a scumbag by our benefactor, the nude unicyclist vigilante, who died very quickly thereafter.
    10. By my count, you and TevashSzat were the original henchmen, and then Sasaki was recruited, was ID'ed, was vigilante'd, and then Andres and Reenk Roink are the current henchmen.
    11. No one has given more reasons for a player to be lynched ever in the history of mafia games, ever.
    12. The song writeups include repeated references to numbers, gods, and triple repeats.





    Now, mafia, would you kindly curl up and die? I've been dead for some time and I understand there are a lot of you to keep me company. We can play cards or something. I bet another 10000000 trillion dollars that Ares is the Godfather, given all the scummy people defending him.


    Everyone else.... played such a good game, avoided detection, and have no real clues darning them to heck, so if anyone else is the Godfather, I say let them have it! I've done the best I can.

    And I had fun. So if town ignores me and lynches lurkers, henchmen, or other people who aren't the Godfather, 777Ares777 and all you other mafia will have earned a very nice victory, and the game was compelling, gripping, and fun, and I got to play "whack-a-mole" with all the recruited henchmen and I got to accuse the Godfather while the game still had a chance of townie victory.

    I even wrote a delightful bit of fan fiction based on the events of this game, and their frightening parallels with Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. So, you know, whatever happens, Lord Winter, enjoy your victory and I'm happy with the game's ending.

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  4. Lord Winter's Avatar

    Lord Winter said:

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    Nope.

    If the Godfather can recruit, the idea is to lynch a bunch of mafioso and prove your own innocence.

    Is it any wonder you've been quiet all this time? And I'm not the Godfather, so everything else you've said is basically irrelevant.

    My case is based on evidence that cannot be fabricated, and your silence until now, speaks volumes. You defend Ares too.... why not send a message to TevashSzat and have him show up? Why not dial up mafioso from previous games to defend Ares.
    Your going against another one of your primary logical tools this game, Occam's razor. A constantly recruiting Godfather has never been proven. Basing your whole strategy on an unsupported thesis will kill the town . We don't have many lynches left and can't afford to waste any. Being certain in mafia is an incredibly easy way to lose.

    I see nothing in my post that would implicate you as godfather. I was merely pointing out logical fallicies and your shift away from all the logical methods you were using earlier. Now your case against Ares isn't bad, but its got alot of holes in it. For example:


    1. Ares is the best candidate based on who is accusing him, and who is NOT.
    The evidence of who is accusing him and who is defending him is useless when the alignment of said townies are unknown. Also circumstantial.

    2. Ares has been active every night barring his one absence.
    Circumstantial, being active does not indicate guilt. As others have pointed out a mafioso can send in there orders earlier or through there partner.

    5. SkyNet has totally pointed the finger at him.
    Unproven and known to be wrong. Reenk made a good case against the use of skynet earlier this game. Furthermore all systems take time to be debugged. Even Holmes took a couple games to get into the swing of things.

    6. pevergreen, the only living townie we can trust, due to YLC's suicide, thinks Ares is guilty
    Innocents can be wrong, it happens all the time. Also pevergreen isn't a CI.

    8. You haven't helped us all game, and murders dropped to one after you died.
    One, I've just been following the thread. I haven't had the time to go comb through and look for suspects like this town demands. Second, like I said before its a common mafia tactic to frame townies by dropping there kills.


    The last thing, your constantly recruiting godfather theory would seriously unbalance the game, something GH would never allow.


    Now, mafia, would you kindly curl up and die? I've been dead for some time and I understand there are a lot of you to keep me company. We can play cards or something. I bet another 10000000 trillion dollars that Ares is the Godfather, given all the scummy people defending him.


    Everyone else.... played such a good game, avoided detection, and have no real clues darning them to heck, so if anyone else is the Godfather, I say let them have it! I've done the best I can.

    And I had fun. So if town ignores me and lynches lurkers, henchmen, or other people who aren't the Godfather, 777Ares777 and all you other mafia will have earned a very nice victory, and the game was compelling, gripping, and fun, and I got to play "whack-a-mole" with all the recruited henchmen and I got to accuse the Godfather while the game still had a chance of townie victory.

    I even wrote a delightful bit of fan fiction based on the events of this game, and their frightening parallels with Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. So, you know, whatever happens, Lord Winter, enjoy your victory and I'm happy with the game's ending.
    I still proclaim my innocence but I know that the evidence is stacked against me. It has been the main reason I haven't been posting before. Its only when I see the town constructing their entire argument on a falsehood or stretch, that I've been driven to post. If you want me to stop posting I'll go away and wish the town luck.
    When it occurs to a man that nature does not regard him as important and that she feels she would not maim the universe by disposing of him, he at first wishes to throw bricks at the temple, and he hates deeply the fact that there are no bricks and no temples
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  5. Askthepizzaguy's Avatar

    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Winter View Post
    Your going against another one of your primary logical tools this game, Occam's razor. A constantly recruiting Godfather has never been proven. Basing your whole strategy on an unsupported thesis will kill the town . We don't have many lynches left and can't afford to waste any. Being certain in mafia is an incredibly easy way to lose.
    I never said I was certain, I said I had a strong case, and I also pointed out that everyone else in the game have patterns of behavior, posting, voting, etc, which makes them unlikely to be the Godfather in not just my estimation, but others as well.

    I see nothing in my post that would implicate you as godfather. I was merely pointing out logical fallicies and your shift away from all the logical methods you were using earlier. Now your case against Ares isn't bad, but its got alot of holes in it. For example:
    Here we go.
    The evidence of who is accusing him and who is defending him is useless when the alignment of said townies are unknown. Also circumstantial.
    Sasaki is very, very likely scum due to the writeup which indicated the nude unicyclist had determined his guilt and then off'ed him, and then the mafia killed him or we townies lynched him.

    Everything in the game is unknown and circumstantial until the game is over, so I don't know why you're bothering to point that out.

    Why bother analyzing ANY writeup, any behavior, any lurking, or any post quality, analysis, or use any evidence in mafia games, if we toss out the circumstantial? Lord Winter, you and every other mafia player use circumstantial evidence to accuse people.

    Otherwise, we random vote. That's all.

    Circumstantial, being active does not indicate guilt. As others have pointed out a mafioso can send in there orders earlier or through there partner.
    Yes, but mafia must do night actions during the night phase, and it's convenient for them all to meet to discuss their plans at that time.

    Unproven and known to be wrong. Reenk made a good case against the use of skynet earlier this game. Furthermore all systems take time to be debugged. Even Holmes took a couple games to get into the swing of things.
    You cannot know I was wrong about anyone in this game, besides nailing mafia/town instead of the Godfather, until the game is over.

    That is, unless you're the mafioso I suspect you to be. But who cares? I've stated my case. Let's get to lynching!

    String them up! String them up! String them up! I don't care who, I want to see how it all ends! Suspense is not my forte!

    Innocents can be wrong, it happens all the time. Also pevergreen isn't a CI.
    Yes, but the mafia will be wrong about who the Godfather is 100% of the time. And they will lynch henchmen and act scummy if the Godfather can recruit, which is a possibility which explains much of the game.

    One, I've just been following the thread. I haven't had the time to go comb through and look for suspects like this town demands. Second, like I said before its a common mafia tactic to frame townies by dropping there kills.
    Yes, it's all a conspiracy against you Lord Winter, because the mafia wouldn't want to kill two people every night for 4-5 phases, you're too valuable as a framed victim.

    I don't think so. Occam's razor says you're guilty, but the fact that you've been here, following the thread, and NOT HELPING, tells me you're scum. Say your innocence all you like. The townies who aren't helping also aren't following the thread. You're following it because you have an interest in who wins, more than the usual townie.


    The last thing, your constantly recruiting godfather theory would seriously unbalance the game, something GH would never allow.
    NO IT WOULD NOT.

    The Godfather dies, the game ends. The Godfather never gets more than 2 henchmen, and only can recruit if one dies.

    That's a perfectly balanced game, in fact ITS MORE BALANCED than the traditional Godfather and two henchmen setup because once his henchmen fall he's a sitting duck. Now at least the Godfather has a fighting chance... what with all you scumbags defending him and misleading the entire town.

    I still proclaim my innocence but I know that the evidence is stacked against me. It has been the main reason I haven't been posting before. Its only when I see the town constructing their entire argument on a falsehood or stretch, that I've been driven to post. If you want me to stop posting I'll go away and wish the town luck.

    If you were innocent, you'd have other suspects.

    The fact that you're here to defend Ares, not assist the town in finding the Godfather, shows your true allegiance.

    You're not fooling anyone you know. If you were a shred of a townie you'd have been helping us all this time. But frankly, at this time, you're probably a mafia and you're just here to defend Ares against my GOOD case.

    If it were such a bad case, all you henchmen wouldn't need to help him out. You're just trying to help me present a better argument and find the real Godfather... HAH! I believe that like I believe that the government always acts in my best interest. I trust you, Lord Winter... your actions have convinced me you have the Godfather's well-being in mind.



    Best of all, if I were wrong about Ares being the Godfather... why... the mafia are having a good laugh, and GeneralHankerchief will have a thread to re-read and amuse himself with for years to come.

    No matter what happens, I've either been an entertaining fool, as Sasaki suggests, or I've got the scum on the ropes. Why should I be afraid of what happens next? Do whatever you want. It's ok by me I'm just one player, who is dead.



    I've... had... the time of my life... and I owe it all to you...
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Me:
    Now I've had the time of my life
    No I never felt like this before
    Yes I swear it's the truth
    and I owe it all to you

    Mafia: 'Cause I've had the time of my life
    and I owe it all to you

    Me: I've been waiting for so long
    Now I've finally found someone
    To stand by me

    Mafia: We saw the writing on the wall
    As we felt this magical fantasy

    Mafia: Now with passion in our eyes
    There's no way we could disguise his identity
    So we take each other's hand
    'Cause we seem to understand the urgency

    Me: just remember

    Mafia: You're the one thing

    Me: I can't get enough of

    Mafia: So I'll tell you something

    Both: They could be Scum because

    (CHORUS)
    Both: I've had the time of my life
    No I never felt this way before
    Yes I swear it's the truth
    And I owe it all to you
    'Cause I've had the time of my life
    And I've searched through every open door
    'Til I found the truth
    And I owe it all to you

    mafia: With my body and soul
    I want to win more than you'll ever know

    Me: So I'll just let it go
    Don't be afraid to lose control

    Mafia: Yes I know whats on your mind
    When we say:
    "Why don't you shut up Pizzaguy?"



    Me: Just remember
    You're the one thing

    Mafia: I can't get enough of

    Me: So I'll tell you something

    Both: They could be Scum, because

    (CHORUS)
    Both: 'Cause I had the time of my life
    No I've never felt this way before
    Yes I swear it's the truth
    And I owe it all to you
    'Cause I've had the game of my life
    And I've searched through SkyNet before
    Till I found the truth
    and I owe it all to you

    *Instrumental*

    Me: Now I've had the time of my life
    No I never felt this way before

    (Mafia: Never Felt this way)

    Me: Yes I swear it's the truth
    and I owe it all to you

    Mafia: 'Cause we had the time of our life
    And we've told Pizzaguy to hush before
    Till he found out the truth
    and now we're defending Ares till we turn blue

    Both: "cause I've had the time of my life
    No I've never felt this way before
    Yes I swear it's the truth
    And I owe it all to you, GH!



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  6. Sasaki Kojiro's Avatar

    Sasaki Kojiro said:

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    Lord Winter is sounding disturbingly innocent, lol. Don't get the motivation for a mafioso to poke their nose in at this point. However, I don't think it's that useful to speculate too much about who was mafia. LW and Tevash, Tevash and Seamus, w/e. I think Curio is a good choice for next lynch. At this point I go mostly on gut.
     
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    GeneralHankerchief said:

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    Either help, or leave.
    I draw the line at statements like these. Every player has a right to post in this thread, regardless of their intentions.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
    Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.

     
  8. Askthepizzaguy's Avatar

    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    Lord Winter is sounding disturbingly innocent, lol. Don't get the motivation for a mafioso to poke their nose in at this point. However, I don't think it's that useful to speculate too much about who was mafia. LW and Tevash, Tevash and Seamus, w/e. I think Curio is a good choice for next lynch. At this point I go mostly on gut.
    Gut instincts are the best reasons of them all! They helped me destroy town's chances in Chicago Soiree, and they led us astray in Scourge of Ephesus... and it got me to accuse White_eyes instead of the person we had thought was mafia all along in Family Guy... It's ruined town's chances in almost every single game I've seen town lose.

    Gut instincts trump evidence and analysis and writeup clues and scummy defense clues.
    I don't agree, Sasaki.

    Oops forgot, we're ignoring each other.
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    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    I draw the line at statements like these. Every player has a right to post in this thread, regardless of their intentions.
    Understood, and edited out, and my sincere apologies, GH.

    I've had a bit stronger stuff in my direction this game, I didn't mean anything by it.
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    GeneralHankerchief said:

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    It's all good.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
    Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.

     
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    Lord Winter said:

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    If you were innocent, you'd have other suspects.

    The fact that you're here to defend Ares, not assist the town in finding the Godfather, shows your true allegiance.

    You're not fooling anyone you know. If you were a shred of a townie you'd have been helping us all this time. Either help, or leave. But frankly, at this time, you're probably a mafia and you're just here to defend Ares against my GOOD case.

    If it were such a bad case, all you henchmen wouldn't need to help him out. You're just trying to help me present a better argument and find the real Godfather... HAH! I believe that like I believe that the government always acts in my best interest. I trust you, Lord Winter... your actions have convinced me you have the Godfather's well-being in mind.
    Two things, first it would be ridiculously stupid with the amount of suspicion I have around me to show up and defend my teammate. Secondly questioning and refining cases is just as important, if not more, as finding new suspects. The fact is in most games that there is multiable cases being built at a time and most of those are innocent townies. If the town can improve its lynch accuracy it should. Saying that I can't defend others is akin to deny a person of the right to defend himself. If it's a good case, the case will stand and be strengthed by repeated questioning. If its a bad case then the town has no purpose lynching that person anyway.
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    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    Gah!

    Well, I've stated my case, re-stated it, defended it from the "suspicious/dead" people. Leaving for the possibilities of me being wrong and causing the game to be less fun, I really gotta get going. Either my candidate is a good one or he's not, and that's for others to determine, and I tried my best to help out, and we're coming up on the final round and if there's going to be a discussion that doesn't involve my two cents, which given the fact that I am dead, there really should be, at least among the living townies...

    It all boils down to this; I've stated my case, and my role in this game is over. Ares had lots of help in defending himself from people who couldn't possibly know his guilt or innocence unless they were mafia, so, that's that and it's all good in the hood!

    I for one will never, ever spend as much time, energy, etc. on a future game, because it eats up too much of my RL time and also, whether the cases I present are valid or not, having one player influence things too much does detract from other's play. And so, I can't continue to act as an inquisitor of this scale in future games.

    It's time to get back to just having fun and not caring a whole lot about winning, as some have helpfully suggested.


    [Nixon] "You won't have Askthepizzaguy to kick around anymore" [/Nixon]
    (joke)

    I'll still be around, but not nearly this active. This is ridiculous, even I admit. If it takes this much to prove someone guilty, it's not worth it. Let them win, I say!

    Here's a balloon for the winning team:

    And a friendly handshake to the second place finishers:

    And a for good sportsmanship.


    See you guys in Capo.


    And @Lord Winter- Good point. You have every right to defend Ares and question my case. It's not important, it's night phase I believe and there will be plenty of time for discussion that doesn't involve me in the day phase. At that point, the town and the mafia will choose the champion, and I will congratulate the winner with a bow.

    I think both sides played a very good game, and there were very strong efforts by many, many players.

    In the end, I'd even be happy being on the losing side. This was a thrill ride from start to finish, got a little overheated at times, but... we're all still cool, and I think we all have a sense of humor about all this, and perspective. It's a nice diversion from real life and real antagonisms. Here, we get to spar with wits and no matter who wins or loses, there's always another game.

    No one wins forever or loses forever... everyone here has probably been on a winning team at least once. And there are some people that frankly are due to win, and if I were in a game with them I'd probably avoid accusing them so that they have a fair shot at winning their fair share and enjoying all the fun that comes with a good win. There are some people here that are due to be mafia, but I think they've been overlooked and not picked too often. Such being the case, I'm inclined to give them more benefit of the doubt than those who have recently beaten the town soundly.

    It's not metagaming to do so, it's trying to make sure everyone gets to have as much fun as possible. If Ares, for example, were the Godfather in this game... he played a heck of a game and if he wins, he certainly deserves it. I hope to see some of our other fun players get the wins they deserve for their excellent contributions in many games so far.

    [Town starts getting out the rubber chickens again]

    ...I'd better skedaddle. Good game, town, Good game mafia. May the good players win and the good players who lost still have loads of fun.

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    Beefy187 said:

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    And good luck Gaius for your first ever victory in mafia. You deserve it


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    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    LOLZ

    And Beefy, since you've been the Godfather all along, congrats on your win.
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    Beefy187 said:

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    LOLZ

    And Beefy, since you've been the Godfather all along, congrats on your win.
    Cheers

    Wait what? I blame Ares for the scummy new sig!! Conspiracy I say!!


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    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    If you recall, earlier I totally avoided accusing you, Beefy.

    Like I said, if you are the Godfather, congrats on your win. Serves town right for lynching you every game on poor reasoning.



    That said, I would actually be surprised if it were you. Wouldn't be a mafia game without you, sir.
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    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    Yet another reason for me to finally shut the up!



    The more I cry "Wolf", the less people will listen, and the more I type, the less they read.

    *shoots himself in the foot and hops around like a pizzaguy who just shot his foot off.*


    That image is TRULY disturbing, TinCow.
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    Beefy187 said:

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    If you recall, earlier I totally avoided accusing you, Beefy.

    Like I said, if you are the Godfather, congrats on your win. Serves town right for lynching you every game on poor reasoning.



    That said, I would actually be surprised if it were you. Wouldn't be a mafia game without you, sir.
    And thanks to this conversation, my place for the final lot of survivors is sealed..
    "What about Beefy?"
    "Leave him.. Lynch bait"

    I'll hate to have another Kung Fu mafia situation

    Off to lunch.. Gone for real now
    Last edited by Beefy187; 02-24-2009 at 04:25.


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  20. Askthepizzaguy's Avatar

    Askthepizzaguy said:

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    I'm going to start being one of Beefy's defenders in future games.

    No one touches the Beef.





    Gone for real now too.



    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Edit: Oh, and for thoroughness, apparently some of those characters in the Astronomy thing weren't gods, but they were mythological figures or based on mythological figures, but seeing as it doesn't matter because the song in question wasn't part of the game... blah de blah blah.
    Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 02-24-2009 at 06:55.
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    #Montytoostronger
     
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    Andres said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    I still think Andres is a better choice to lynch. Andres has just sailed through this game without batting an eyelash. His play has been too cool the entire time; his responses always perfectly designed to allay any suspicions about him and point the finger at other people. Looking back, he's picked up a grand total of ONE lynch vote since the first lynch phase, and even that one was just because Reenk forgot to unvote him when he tried to vote for someone else. For some reason, I just feel like an innocent Andres would attract more suspicion that this. An Andres that sails through a game without suspicion makes me nervous. It's also worth noting that one of the two people who voted for Andres on the first lynch vote was Tevash, who is likely mafia. Not a bad idea to vote your own Godfather early on, if it doesn't get him lynched.
    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    Apparently the lyrics I posted earlier are wrong. If true, I can only shrug. Google gave me lyrics to that song, and I don't know it otherwise so I would have no way to verify whether they were accurate or not. As I've noted previously in my own analyses of the songs, they are at best, supplementary evidence. For a couple days now I've been reduced to little more than gut instinct, and at the moment that gut instinct is saying Andres. Also, sushi, but that's a different part of my gut.


    So, I should be lynched because, eh, I have not been under suspicion and did not behave suspicious this game?



    Why do you hate me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio View Post
    ATPG makes a good point regarding the numerous references to numbers, and in particular the Gods mentioned. That said it would seem to me to be a leap of faith trusting the songs. For all we know it could be (although I find it unlikely) that the mafia have the ability to pick the songs, and thus mislead us.....

    And Andres, voting for me without a glance at my attempted defence... calculated, or attempting to get by with the minimum of questions answered? Either it way it looks a little suspicious....


    I was afk from Saturday morning until Monday afternoon. Only had time to end the night in The Abused Potatoes, skimmed The Godfather thread, noticed there was an extension and quickly voted you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    It's been suggested: Reenk or Andres.

    I think they are the new henchmen. They are both acting scummy, for sure, and both defending Ares.
    But if you don't kill the Godfather, he will just recruit more henchmen.


    Where exactly did I defend Ares?

    For the record: this is my first post since you started the Ares case based on the lyrics of songs.

    Really guys, lynching a player for the mere fact that he's still alive is not good.
    Last edited by Andres; 02-24-2009 at 10:57.
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    TinCow said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    So, I should be lynched because, eh, I have not been under suspicion and did not behave suspicious this game?
    At this point in the game, yes. It's no coincidence that pretty much everyone else has been under suspicion for one reason or another. Townies tend to be focused mainly on finding the mafia and aren't usually constantly concerned about how their posts are being viewed throughout the game. Mafia, on the other hand, are always aware of how their posts will be interpreted because they are afraid of giving something away. You are a very, very good player. I would not put it past you to be able to go the entire game as mafia without making anyone suspicious about you.

    I'm just sticking with the policy of searching of abnormalities or irregularities in the thread. At the moment, the biggest one I see is the nice layer of scum covering everyone but you. Why do you end up being so squeaky clean while everyone else is suspicious? Counterintuitive, yes, but it's all I've got at the moment.

     
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    Andres said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinCow View Post
    At this point in the game, yes. It's no coincidence that pretty much everyone else has been under suspicion for one reason or another. Townies tend to be focused mainly on finding the mafia and aren't usually constantly concerned about how their posts are being viewed throughout the game. Mafia, on the other hand, are always aware of how their posts will be interpreted because they are afraid of giving something away. You are a very, very good player. I would not put it past you to be able to go the entire game as mafia without making anyone suspicious about you.

    I'm just sticking with the policy of searching of abnormalities or irregularities in the thread. At the moment, the biggest one I see is the nice layer of scum covering everyone but you. Why do you end up being so squeaky clean while everyone else is suspicious? Counterintuitive, yes, but it's all I've got at the moment.
    So, to defend myself, I have to find a scummy post made by me?

    Your case against me sounds a bit silly, doesn't it?
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    TinCow said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    So, to defend myself, I have to find a scummy post made by me?

    Your case against me sounds a bit silly, doesn't it?
    If it makes it easier for you, don't consider it a 'case' at all. It's just my attempt to explain my current gut feelings about the game. Yes, it's pretty much impossible to defend against this kind of a attack, but at the same time I'm dead and the only other person who seems inclined to vote for you recently got his voting power taken away.

    In any case, I've said what I wanted to say and don't see the need to hammer on it any further. If you'd like to propose an argument as to why someone else is lynch-worthy, I will listen to it.

     
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    Quintus.JC said:

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    Vote: Andres

    Your behaviour is way too cool and smooth this game

    Aries or Curio can be next.

    Anyone want to check on White Eyes? He's normally really suicidal and dies very early on, the only recently game where he died late is Chiago. Plus I didn't notice anyone putting White Eyes under pressure in this game.
     
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    Andres said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quintus.JC View Post
    Vote: Andres

    Your behaviour is way too cool and smooth this game

    Aries or Curio can be next.

    Anyone want to check on White Eyes? He's normally really suicidal and dies very early on, the only recently game where he died late is Chiago. Plus I didn't notice anyone putting White Eyes under pressure in this game.
    It's night.

    Anyway, if "too cool and smooth" is your case, then I can only defend with :

    Why Aries and then Curio?

    And the case against White_Eyes:D is the same as the case against me : not behaving suspicious?

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    Thermal said:

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    Has the madman gone now? Seriously I did defend myself on numerous posts, but when it gets to the point where ATPG rabbles on with the same questions, just re-phrased, I refuse to repeat myself, It wouldn't matter what I would have said, ATPG would never believe me.
     
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    LittleGrizzly said:

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    And the case against White_Eyes:D is the same as the case against me : not behaving suspicious?

    Quick hypothetical situation for you Andres, if you were mafia would you try and avoid being scummy in your posts ?
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    Andres said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
    And the case against White_Eyes:D is the same as the case against me : not behaving suspicious?

    Quick hypothetical situation for you Andres, if you were mafia would you try and avoid being scummy in your posts ?
    Like everybody else, I would try to behave as usual.

    The fact that I'm not lynched or haven't been under pressure in this game may be unusual, but I don't think that is my doing.

    Maybe townies finally accepted that, like everybody else, I usually get the townie role
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    GeneralHankerchief said:

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    Night 9

    pevergreen was really tired and frightened after the lynching of glyphz. The new Chief of polices, "Wanax" scared the living daylights out of him. That void of nothingness, yet it consumes everything that goes in, even glyphz when he was turned into a gingerbread man was not spared from it.

    He had to get his mind off of it and found himself going to the old Chief of polices mansion, that he had made by embezzling the police forces budget money. He missed shlin28 and his lovely "aides" that he had, he missed the power-hungry townie that used to amuse him and hated this new one and his creepy "Wanax". As he went to go inside he saw a man in a business suit and hat, waving at him. "That's weird, could he be auctioning this place off?" he thought but was then shocked when he pulled out a grenade and tossed it towards him.

    pevergreen had quick reflex's and jumped quickly inside the mansion and covered his head, only to realize to his horror, it was a gas grenade. He was knocked out and a few hours passed, pevergreen slowly woke up and saw that he was tied to a chair and was surrounded by drums of gasoline. "Now how should I do this, in order to send the proper message to your new Chief of police?" the man in the business suit asked pevergreen. "Should I slowly kill you or just blow this place up?" pevergreen didn't replie but only struggled to escape from the chair. "I know! FIRE, a big fire well send the perfect message to your new Chief of Police" replied the man in the business suit, who grinned wildly as he walked outside.

    He came back and took out a gas container and started dowsing the place in gasoline. Even throwing some on the struggling pevergreen, who panicked even more. "Don't worry, this is just going to hurt like " as he lit a lighter and tossed it on the gasoline drenched pevergreen, who started screaming as his body slowly started on fire. All the police found when they arrived was DVD entitled "pevergreens fiery farewell" and the Chief of polices old mansion burnt to the ground, with pevergreen charred corpse in the center of it.

    Luckily, Chief of Police Reenk Roink was not present in the building at the time of the explosion, his many heightened senses as The Wanax alerting him to a possible threat. Thirty minutes prior, he had strolled out of the mansion/office in full Wanax regalia, passing the man with the boombox playing "We Have All the Time in the World" by Louis Armstrong, and disappeared out of sight.

    Nobody would see The Wanax again until the voting was to conclude, but by this point everybody was so terrified of him that they made their way to the Gameroom square and began voting anyway, without prompting.


    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Still alive: (8)
    777Ares777
    Andres
    Quintus.JC
    White_eyes:D
    Reenk Roink
    Beefy187
    taka
    Gaius Scribonius Curio

    Killed:
    Tratorix
    CountArach
    seireikhaan
    boudica
    TinCow
    Jolt
    Ignoramus
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Psychonaut
    LittleGrizzly
    Chaotix27
    pevergreen

    Executed:
    Ichigo
    Lord Winter
    Sigurd
    Askthepizzaguy
    TevashSzat
    Seamus Fermanagh
    shlin28
    glyphz

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    ANNOUNCEMENT: The endgame is upon us! As such, there are a few changes in the rules:

    - First of all, no more abstentions. If you abstain, you will register as not voting. Keep in mind that enough non-votes can and will result in your removal from play.

    - Secondly, I know I have two additional players lined up to take the spots of anybody who drops out (and I know at least one of them is reading the thread ) but we've gotten down to so few players that it wouldn't be fair to add you in at the last minute. Thank you for your continued interest.

    - Thirdly, The Chief of Police can now vote.

    Good luck, everybody!
    Last edited by GeneralHankerchief; 02-24-2009 at 20:17.
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