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White_eyes:D 18:23 02-16-2009
Come on....his lynch was going to happen no matter what.....do I need to beat his dead some more? I mean the guy won;t even defend himself....or even log on.....what do you expect....??

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Seamus Fermanagh 19:21 02-16-2009
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D:
Come on....his lynch was going to happen no matter what.....do I need to beat his dead some more? I mean the guy won;t even defend himself....or even log on.....what do you expect....??
I just like the loose ends cleared up. It does not appear it will make any lasting impact this time.

On a side note, I hope Tev wasn't ticked off at the whole process -- some folks personalized the discussion a good bit too much during that stretch. We all need to remember, as Puzo said, "It's just business -- nothing personal."

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GeneralHankerchief 20:00 02-16-2009
Voting closed.

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Sasaki Kojiro 20:04 02-16-2009
Disappointed in you tevash...a good detective reveal has to say something new or unexpected, otherwise it's simply "well that's what a mafioso would claim". The nude unicyclist or boombox guy would have been a much better claim. You let your mafia brothers down a bit. The role pm would have been easy to fake too:

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief:
Congratulations TevashSzatyou're the detective!

It is your goal to help to town survive. Every night it is your job to PM me with the name of the person you wish to investigate. I will send you a reply of whether the person is innocent or guilty.

I will soon post the list of everyone alive/playing in the thread. Once that happens, pick who you would like to investigate.

Good luck, watch out for the Mafia, and happy hunting! PM me if you have any questions.

General Hankerchief


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GeneralHankerchief 20:11 02-16-2009
Wow Sasaki, how far back did you have to go to dig that one up?

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shlin28 20:12 02-16-2009
That clinches it, Sasaki MUST be scum!

That means we only got the Godfather left! YEEHAW!

*Fires pistol into the air*

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Sasaki Kojiro 20:18 02-16-2009
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief:
Wow Sasaki, how far back did you have to go to dig that one up?
I typed it from memory

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
Mafia IV/Mafia V


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GeneralHankerchief 20:41 02-16-2009
Day 6

Although nowhere near the scream-fest that was yesterday, the day's discussions were still quite lively, with the participants mainly focused on the emergence of the nude unicyclist as a killer and then his subsequent disappearance. People were torn between laughter at the absurdity of the kill and shock that there was another potential foe to be reckoned with.

However, discussion eventually shifted to another prominent event - TevashSzat's declaration that he was the Gameroom's Detective. Throughout the day, everyone gathered around him, clamoring to know more about what he had done, or his job qualifications, or his certificate of Detective-ship from the authorities.

There was one problem with this, however - Tevash was sound asleep.

He was apparently a heavy sleeper, too, for people crowded around very closely, screamed in his ear, and even started kicking him at the end of the day. None of this produced any result. Really, the only thing that changed was that he started to snore later in the day. At first, people thought he was stirring, but soon groaned when they found he was just prone to an annoying nocturnal habit.

At the close of voting, Chief of Police shlin28 fired his gun in the air a few times, which got everybody's attention. "All right, everybody, shut up," he said to the crowd, which quickly quieted down. "Tevash is guilty. Get up here."

Silence.

"Tevash, get up here and die!!!"

*snore*

Annoyed, shlin walked down off the execution platform to where Tevash was sleeping, placed his gun right beside Tevash's ear, and fired it into the air once more. This was finally enough to rouse him, and Tevash awoke with a start, his eyes darting around wildly.

"Wha- who- izzit time yet?"

The Chief of Police didn't answer, only taking a still-confused Tevash by the shoulder and dragging him back up to the execution platform. Everyone in the crowd could hear shlin grumbling about "manual labor" and "not my job to walk down from the platform and back". Slapping Tevash awake a few more times, he jammed him in the chair from yesterday and began forcefully duct-taping him to it.

Once this task was complete and Tevash was thorougly unable to move, shlin walked to the back of a truck and came back with a full stack of what looked like rocket-like objects. Without a word, he placed them all around Tevash's chair. Tevash's eyes widened in fear, and they continued to get wider as shlin stepped back, lit a match, and watched the flame burn closer and closer to the rockets.

"This was originally meant for yesterday," he reminded the crowd. "I personally think it would have been more appropriate for then, but what can you do? Bombs away!"

At that, the flame connected with the rockets and Tevash launched into the air, going higher and higher... until he finally exploded. The crowd cheered as they saw what remained.



Day 6 tally:

TevashSzat: 5 (777Ares777, Andres, Psychonaut, Beefy187, Seamus Fermanagh)
Seamus Fermanagh: 2 (Reenk Roink, White_eyes:D)
Reenk Roink: 1 (Chaotix27)
pevergreen: 1 (taka)
Quintus.JC: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)

Abstained: 3 (shlin28, glyphz, pevergreen)
Didn't vote: 3 (TevashSzat, Quintus.JC, LittleGrizzly)

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (15)
shlin28
pevergreen
777Ares777
Andres
Quintus.JC
Psychonaut
White_eyes:D
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
glyphz
Beefy187
taka
Seamus Fermanagh
LittleGrizzly
Gaius Scribonius Curio

Killed:
Tratorix
CountArach
seireikhaan
boudica
TinCow
Jolt
Ignoramus
Sasaki Kojiro

Executed:
Ichigo
Lord Winter
Sigurd
Askthepizzaguy
TevashSzat

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Andres 20:42 02-16-2009
Originally Posted by shlin28:
That clinches it, Sasaki MUST be scum!

That means we only got the Godfather left! YEEHAW!

*Fires pistol into the air*
Indeed. His role reveal is obviously fake! I suggest we dig up his corpse and lynch it tomorrow!

*** Puts pointing finger in the air and makes "bang! bang! sounds ***

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Reenk Roink 21:36 02-16-2009
Oh come on. Tevash probably had soemthing come up and couldn't post.

Seamus has to die, and I'm disappointed in the town.

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Andres 21:47 02-16-2009
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink:
Oh come on. Tevash probably had soemthing come up and couldn't post.

Seamus has to die, and I'm disappointed in the town.
Why does Seamus have to die?

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TinCow 22:38 02-16-2009
Originally Posted by Andres:
Why does Seamus have to die?


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GeneralHankerchief 22:42 02-16-2009
I've been waiting for somebody to post something like that ever since khaan joined.

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Reenk Roink 02:45 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by Andres:
Why does Seamus have to die?
I have thought Seamus guilty ever since early in the game when he tried to pass off the write ups as my doing. I don't know what the seireikhaan clues or whatever were and haven't been paying attention.

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Seamus Fermanagh 03:42 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink:
I have thought Seamus guilty ever since early in the game when he tried to pass off the write ups as my doing. I don't know what the seireikhaan clues or whatever were and haven't been paying attention.
In what post did I do that? I shall search....

If you mean this one, I was jokingly complimenting you -- and you HAVE been both an excellent partner and a deadly opponent.

Or this one, where I answered CA? Admittedly, I was being a little devilsome here, but you and I have always shared humorous asides, no?

Surely not this?

All three of these were the only places I mentioned you in specific Reenkster and all of these were on the semi-flippant election day phase. What's the problem?

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seireikhaan 03:43 02-17-2009
Alright, Seamus, here's my next question:

Why the dip in activity in postcount since I PM'd you on Tuesday? By my count, you've gone down roughly .25 posts per day, pushing you closer to previous totals.

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Seamus Fermanagh 03:48 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by seireikhaan:
Alright, Seamus, here's my next question:

Why the dip in activity in postcount since I PM'd you on Tuesday? By my count, you've gone down roughly .25 posts per day, pushing you closer to previous totals.
Sunday/Monday are paperwork and calls days. Tuesday was a 1st degree at council 5480, Wed through Friday were two meeting days with appropriate prep. I did try to keep up and stay with the game, but didn't have quite so many posts -- happens. You'd probably get a slight pickup over this weekend just past if you chart those days versus the others.

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seireikhaan 03:51 02-17-2009
Hmm... Fair enough.

Next question: Same question I posed to Andres and Sasaki- Knowing that half the people in this game think I'm practically the ant-christ in terms of my deviousness, what would it take for you to believe about me to kill me the second night?

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Reenk Roink 04:24 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
In what post did I do that? I shall search....

If you mean this one, I was jokingly complimenting you -- and you HAVE been both an excellent partner and a deadly opponent.

Or this one, where I answered CA? Admittedly, I was being a little devilsome here, but you and I have always shared humorous asides, no?

Surely not this?

All three of these were the only places I mentioned you in specific Reenkster and all of these were on the semi-flippant election day phase. What's the problem?
This one old buddy.

Yes, my suspicions of you are all based on intuition whereas I know many of you prefer an analytical approach, but as you know, Reenk Roink puts little value in rationality and analysis.

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Seamus Fermanagh 04:57 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by seireikhaan:
Hmm... Fair enough.

Next question: Same question I posed to Andres and Sasaki- Knowing that half the people in this game think I'm practically the ant-christ in terms of my deviousness, what would it take for you to believe about me to kill me the second night?
As a mafioso, and were I so in this game, I'd probably not have selected you for an early offing -- unless I had more than just a vague hunch that you had a power town role (occasionally a detective will slip up and use a term or phrasing that hints at their status, then you whack them). Unless I thought I was taking out a role ealry, however, I'd have used your reputation as cover for the mid-game. It's pretty reasonable to assume that a town will start pressuring players with a rep by that point, so I'd have waited until townie suspicions got some of the big names and then removed the rest. So, short summary, had I been mafia I would only have whacked you early if I thought you were a power role.

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Seamus Fermanagh 05:03 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink:
This one old buddy.

Yes, my suspicions of you are all based on intuition whereas I know many of you prefer an analytical approach, but as you know, Reenk Roink puts little value in rationality and analysis.
Harder to counter intuition than anything else Reenk. There's simply no single datum I can point to that may shift your thinking. You either get a sense that I'm going about things normally or you get a sense that I am being vague and evasive. I think if you close read my posts etc., you should see the former, but I can't get in your head to convince you.

As to the specific reference however, if GH was picking rather than assigning, I really do think your veering humor and pinache would be suited to such a character -- you're just too fun! Short of Gregoshi joining us in a mafia, can you think of anyone else better suited?

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GeneralHankerchief 05:07 02-17-2009
Woo, Seamus's 5,000th post was in my thread!

I think

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White_eyes:D 06:22 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
Harder to counter intuition than anything else Reenk. There's simply no single datum I can point to that may shift your thinking. You either get a sense that I'm going about things normally or you get a sense that I am being vague and evasive. I think if you close read my posts etc., you should see the former, but I can't get in your head to convince you.

As to the specific reference however, if GH was picking rather than assigning, I really do think your veering humor and pinache would be suited to such a character -- you're just too fun! Short of Gregoshi joining us in a mafia, can you think of anyone else better suited?
I still think Reenk is the Boom box guy.....

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Andres 09:36 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by seireikhaan:
Alright, Seamus, here's my next question:

Why the dip in activity in postcount since I PM'd you on Tuesday? By my count, you've gone down roughly .25 posts per day, pushing you closer to previous totals.
Originally Posted by seireikhaan:
Hmm... Fair enough.

Next question: Same question I posed to Andres and Sasaki- Knowing that half the people in this game think I'm practically the ant-christ in terms of my deviousness, what would it take for you to believe about me to kill me the second night?
1+1=2 ?

'khaan investigated Seamus, got an "innocent" result, contacted him through pm, hinting at his detective role and got killed the very next night?

'khaan deduces from this that Seamus is the godfather?

Seamus, can you post the pm 'khaan sent you on that Tuesday?

EDIT: but then again, wouldn't it be smarter for a godfather to keep the detective close to him and alive?

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Beefy187 10:02 02-17-2009
Khaan: Hey Seamus.. Im the detective!!
Seamus: Really?? (excellent....)

*Seamus orders his man to execute Khaan

That is rather silly and too obvious.. Could be going for the WIFOM effect but what kind of mad God Father risks that??

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naut 10:19 02-17-2009
It's possible. I'm not going to go charging blindly into this one though. Did enough of that the last two rounds. I think I might read, get my bearings then disregard everything I've read then go charging blindly in again.

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Beefy187 10:33 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by Psychonaut:
It's possible. I'm not going to go charging blindly into this one though. Did enough of that the last two rounds. I think I might read, get my bearings then disregard everything I've read then go charging blindly in again.


If God Father dies then its immediate end of game is it not? Let us hope that Tevash was the God Father so we don't have to do our blind charging

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Askthepizzaguy 12:53 02-17-2009
Very well. That would tie up the loose ends.

Very nicely done slipping under my scumdar, Seamus Fermanagh. Although, to be fair, GeneralHankerchief's post:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=1118

Did not include the words "I will accept night actions now".


A little odd, if the game continued. A bit of suspense, GH?

I readily admit that Seamus could have and probably did completely fool me, if the game continues. But I'm not totally convinced the game is still in play.

Seamus would be the next top suspect, at this time.



Originally Posted by Sasaki:
Disappointed in you tevash...a good detective reveal has to say something new or unexpected, otherwise it's simply "well that's what a mafioso would claim". The nude unicyclist or boombox guy would have been a much better claim. You let your mafia brothers down a bit. The role pm would have been easy to fake too:
Sasaki seems to have resigned the mafia to defeat. He might have been the henchman I suspected, and Tevash might have been the Godfather. But then again, Seamus looks like a delightful choice as well. Sasaki may have been a townie, but I don't see why he did a 180 on his stance towards me and started defending Tevash like no one's business.




I say GeneralHankerchief is the Boombox guy dropping hints, and that Seireikhaan was the detective, and that Seamus is either a nude unicyclist vigilante or the Godfather, and I have no idea who the vigilante is. Lord Winter and Tevash both seem to be mafia to me, and I think Sasaki too... but we will see.


Originally Posted by :
On a side note, I hope Tev wasn't ticked off at the whole process -- some folks personalized the discussion a good bit too much during that stretch. We all need to remember, as Puzo said, "It's just business -- nothing personal."
If I in any way crossed the line, and I may have, I offer my sincerest of apologies. I am a bad pizzaguy.



Oh, and Tevash: You played a good game. Seriously. You have nothing to apologize for, and you almost completely evaded detection.

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TinCow 13:24 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by Andres:
1+1=2 ?

'khaan investigated Seamus, got an "innocent" result, contacted him through pm, hinting at his detective role and got killed the very next night?

'khaan deduces from this that Seamus is the godfather?

Seamus, can you post the pm 'khaan sent you on that Tuesday?

EDIT: but then again, wouldn't it be smarter for a godfather to keep the detective close to him and alive?
If khaan was the detective, I doubt he'd be so foolish as to reveal himself privately to anyone, since he would be well aware that an innocent night result doesn't mean the target wasn't mafia. I think the math is more like:

khaan + death = Seamus - evidence

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Askthepizzaguy 13:26 02-17-2009
Originally Posted by TinCow:
If khaan was the detective, I doubt he'd be so foolish as to reveal himself privately to anyone, since he would be well aware that an innocent night result doesn't mean the target wasn't mafia. I think the math is more like:

khaan + death = Seamus - evidence
Now THAT makes more sense.

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