The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

[seireikhaan]

Hmm... Interesting.

[Thermal]

Just who the hell is this nude unicyclist and boombox guy, any claims!?

[Chaotix]

Night 2

Seireikhaan was driving down the street when he noticed a damsel in distress frantically waving her arms. He pulled up to her and offered his help. She explained that she needed to change a flat tire. As Seireikhaan checked the busted tire, a dark figure came into view and smashed his head with the tire iron, knocking him out cold.

Seireikhaan woke up many hours later in a dark cavern.

"What? Where am I?"

A deep voice replied "You are in a cave many miles from town. No one but me knows you are here. You are finished."

Seireikhaan looked around and discovered that he was strapped down to a metal chair. As he struggled to free himself, a large screen rolls down in front of him. Suddenly the screen goes bright and a video of a masked figure eating babies started rolling.

"I have your chair placed right above a giant tank of water. That button in your right hand will cause you to have a watery death," boomed the voice with laughter.

Seireikhaan did not last through the hour. His drowned remains were shipped to the front office of the Gameroom in the morning.

After the recent murders of Tratorix and CountArach, boudica had good reason not to go out at night for anything, other than for the lynching of Ichigo.

It didn't bother boudica enough to keep her from her evening jogging routine, however. After all, what was a potential mafia attack with the potential of destroying her entire peaceful little town when compared to the maintenance of her fitness regimen?

To be fair, it helped that she jogged on the other side of town from Tratorix's usual route. boudica went the scenic way, spending quite a bit of time in the Frontroom Park, far away from the alleyway, which, by this point, had been sealed off due to Tratorix's murder.

She jogged past the lake with its many mice and trace amounts of osmium, around the Frontroom cliffs with its extremely pointy rocks at the bottom, back to the lake where, sitting on a bench that looked like it had never been there before, was a man dressed in a business suit and hat waving at boudica.

boudica, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man.

"Excellent evening for running, I do say," he said amiably.

"They all are," boudica replied.

"Indeed," said the man. "Allow me to recommend a beautiful route up in the hills if you're up for a change of scenery."

"The hills, eh?" boudica panted. "Maybe it is time to adjust my route. I'll have to try that sometime."

"I'm afraid you won't be able to," the man said, pushing boudica in the lake and holding her head under till she drowned, all with an apologetic smile on his face.

Eventually, Chief of Police shlin28 got wind of all these murders and grinned. The mafia hadn't been eliminated yet. That meant he got to supply another cool execution. After making a few phone calls to local farms, he gathered everybody in the town square, passing the nude unicyclist juggler and the guy with the boombox in the park. Stopping at this second guy, he asked a question.

"You," he said, "you're always at the park. Did you see anything strange?"

"No, man," the guy replied. "I was too busy chilling out to Perry Mason by Ozzy Osbourne."

"Well, all right," shlin said. "But I'm keeping my eye on you."

After some time, everyone had arrived, including the results of the few phone calls he had made. As a result, shlin was ready to begin the day's proceedings.

"All right, people," he said, getting everybody's attention. "Clearly, the mafia are still around, which means you losers didn't get it right last time. As such, we're going to try it again. And this time, the person with the most parts will literally be torn apart. I have acquired four majestic horses. They will each be attached to one of the unlucky person's limbs, and when I give the order they will race apart in different directions. Good luck!"

Look at the first part of the write-up, where the two kills occur, and then at the second part where shlin is mentioned. Notice anything? For one thing, in the top half every single mention of a player is bolded, while in the bottom half, shlin28 is only bolded once. After the first bolding of "shlin28", he is referred to only as "shlin", without the numbers at the end or the bold.

I think for this reason the writers for each part were different- perhaps both are still mafia, but there were probably two different writers here. It remains to see what shlin really chose for the lynch method, for who could possibly know what he is going to do except himself or GH?

[Beefy187]

Can't say much.. Shlin might know something about last nights encounter. The boombox guy could be one of us.

"That meant he got to supply another cool execution"

Shlins enjoying this

[Thermal]

If Shlin is mafia then were truely doomed

[LittleGrizzly]

Lynch Shlin28!!

(or maybe not...)

[White_eyes:D]

I can see that both MO's are the same as before but that might help us tell when one of them gets lynched........and.....what in the world is a "Nude person on a Unicycle" doing?? was that something Shlin did?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote Count:

Sasaki: 1 (YLC)
Lord Winter: 1 (Sasaki)
Abstain: 1 (Seamus)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Weekend. I'm not too concerned.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

I noticed something interesting in the second write-up, I also find it quite entertaining but more on that later.

Thefirst murder involves two people if you include said damsel. I don't think this is overly important, but it could be something to note if it is a recurring theme.

It didn't bother boudica enough to keep her from her evening jogging routine, however. After all, what was a potential mafia attack with the potential of destroying her entire peaceful little town when compared to the maintenance of her fitness regimen?

To be fair, it helped that she jogged on the other side of town from Tratorix's usual route. boudica went the scenic way, spending quite a bit of time in the Frontroom Park, far away from the alleyway, which, by this point, had been sealed off due to Tratorix's murder.

She jogged past the lake with its many mice and trace amounts of osmium, around the Frontroom cliffs with its extremely pointy rocks at the bottom, back to the lake where, sitting on a bench that looked like it had never been there before, was a man dressed in a business suit and hat waving at boudica.

boudica, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man.

"Excellent evening for running, I do say," he said amiably.

"They all are," boudica replied.

"Indeed," said the man. "Allow me to recommend a beautiful route up in the hills if you're up for a change of scenery."

"The hills, eh?" boudica panted. "Maybe it is time to adjust my route. I'll have to try that sometime."

"I'm afraid you won't be able to," the man said, pushing boudica in the lake and holding her head under till she drowned, all with an apologetic smile on his face.

I have good reason to know that this description was written by a different mafioso from the first. I authored this one,

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

It didn't bother Andres enough to keep him from his own morning jogging routine, however. After all, what was a potential mafia attack with the consequences reaching the possibility of the total extinction of his peaceful little town when compared with the maintenance of his fitness regimen?

To be fair, it helped that he jogged on the other side of town from Tratorix's usual route. Andres went the scenic way, spending quite a bit of time in the Frontroom Park, far away from the alleyway which, by this point, had been sealed off.

He jogged past the lake, with its many ducks and trace amounts of osmium, around the Frontroom cliffs with its extremely pointy rocks at the bottom, back to the lake where, sitting on a bench that looked like it hadn't been there before, was a man, impeccably dressed, wearing a fedora and trenchcoat and waving at Andres.

Andres, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man. "Excellent morning for running, I do say," he said aimiably.

"They all are," Andres said.

"Indeed," said the man. "Allow me to recommend a beautiful route up in the hills, if you're up for a change of scenery."

"The hills, eh?" Andres panted. "Maybe it is time to adjust my route. I'll have to try that sometime."

"I'm afraid you won't be able to," the man said, whipping out his revolver and blasting Andres, all with an apologetic smile on his face. Andres's lifeless corpse rolled into the lake, the ducks having already made room for him by flying away upon the sound of the mafioso's gunshot.

with some assistance from GH for Mafia VIII, during which game 'Khaan and I were mafia. It is basically a word for word transcription.

It could be that the cunning mafiosi are trawling through various old games copying other kill descriptions in order to disguise their writing styles. It could be that someone who played in that game is attempting to frame me, although it seems that no-one else picked up on it. Shlin I hereby request that the next mafioso we catch is done for copyright infringement before we rip him apart with horses.

I'd also suggest that the last part of the write-up, the 'next morning' part if you will is authored by GH, rather than the mafiosi.

Vote: Sasaki

Basically a placeholder vote. I'm completely stumped at the moment, but it would appeal to his sense of irony to kill 'Khann the same round as stealing my kill description.

[Beefy187]

I noticed something interesting in the second write-up, I also find it quite entertaining but more on that later.

Thefirst murder involves two people if you include said damsel. I don't think this is overly important, but it could be something to note if it is a recurring theme.



I have good reason to know that this description was written by a different mafioso from the first. I authored this one,

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

with some assistance from GH for Mafia VIII, during which game 'Khaan and I were mafia. It is basically a word for word transcription.

It could be that the cunning mafiosi are trawling through various old games copying other kill descriptions in order to disguise their writing styles. It could be that someone who played in that game is attempting to frame me, although it seems that no-one else picked up on it. Shlin I hereby request that the next mafioso we catch is done for copyright infringement before we rip him apart with horses.

I'd also suggest that the last part of the write-up, the 'next morning' part if you will is authored by GH, rather than the mafiosi.

Vote: Sasaki

Basically a placeholder vote. I'm completely stumped at the moment, but it would appeal to his sense of irony to kill 'Khann the same round as stealing my kill description.

Long shot but I think you are innocent. Good find.

Could the mafia be one of those who played in Mafia VIII? Or is it another WIFOM

[TevashSzat]

It could be that the cunning mafiosi are trawling through various old games copying other kill descriptions in order to disguise their writing styles. It could be that someone who played in that game is attempting to frame me, although it seems that no-one else picked up on it. Shlin I hereby request that the next mafioso we catch is done for copyright infringement before we rip him apart with horses..

Hmm....that'd be a good way for them to disguise their writing styles.

I don't recollect the first writeup from any game that I've played in, but I don't really remember writeups that clearly.....Does anyone here remember the first writeup?

[seireikhaan]

Long shot but I think you are innocent. Good find.

Could the mafia be one of those who played in Mafia VIII? Or is it another WIFOM

Well... I'm dead. And Gaius was the only other mafioso.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Where's Agonnyduck when you need him?

[White_eyes:D]

Ok, I have looked at both write-up's carefully....and come up with some clues.......(Which could just be WIFOM....but I think they left them by mistake...) Both kill write-ups for the first and second night, always have the same method of murder.....but both are different in there disposition..

Horrified by such an image, Tratorix immediately backed away, but then tripped on a pothole. He fell backwards right onto a conveniently placed knife that was held upright with epoxy. The knife went straight through his lungs.

Here on night one, we see the killer never kills the target directly....but seems to make his target kill himself....

"I have your chair placed right above a giant tank of water. That button in your right hand will cause you to have a watery death," boomed the voice with laughter.

Seireikhaan did not last through the hour. His drowned remains were shipped to the front office of the Gameroom in the morning.

While the second Kill write-ups have the killer have a more hands-on approach to his targets.....

"It must have been the wind," CountArach nervously laughed.

As he was walking towards the door he felt something stuffed into his mouth and quickly realized it was a wad of cloth soaked in methanol. His eyes went blurry and he fell on a carefully placed knife that was held upright with epoxy.

In the second one he seems to steal or use a write-up from another game......

"I'm afraid you won't be able to," the man said, pushing boudica in the lake and holding her head under till she drowned, all with an apologetic smile on his face.

Maybe they both are using write-ups from other games to confuse town and make a huge WIFOM.... but until a get a better analysis of this I Vote:abstain

[Beefy187]

Well... I'm dead. And Gaius was the only other mafioso.

I meant all players.


List of players who are playing and played mafia VII
Ichigo
TinCow
woad&fangs
shlin28
makaikhaan (Seireikhaan)
Sasaki Kojiro
LittleGrizzly
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Tratorix
LittleGrizzly
Andres
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
TevashSzat
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Lord Winter
CountArach
Rythmic
Seamus Fermanagh
Quintus.J.Cicero

I think thats everyone who played and are here atm. Correct me if Im wrong

[Thermal]

Ichigo
TinCow
woad&fangs
shlin28
makaikhaan (Seireikhaan)
Sasaki Kojiro
LittleGrizzly
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Craterus
Caius
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Tratorix
777ares777
LittleGrizzly
Andres
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
TevashSzat
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Lord Winter
CountArach
Rythmic
Seamus Fermanagh
Quintus.J.Cicero

Fixed

[Beefy187]

Wait.. You weren't playing were you? Or did you have a different name?

[Thermal]

Evidence

Signed up (28/30):
Ichigo (welcome back, BTW!)
shlin28
YLC
777Ares777
Andres
seireikhaan
TevashSzat
Quintus.JC
Lord Winter
Rythmic
White_eyes:D
CountArach
Tratorix
Chaotix27
Sigurd
Reenk Roink
glyphz
boudica
187Beefyz
taka
Seamus Fermanagh
Jolt
LittleGrizzly
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Ignoramus
Askthepizzaguy
TinCow
Sasaki Kojiro (also welcome back!)

You ARE joking right? I have one of the highest post counts? I wouldn't just talk/Spam so much for nothing!

[Tratorix]

You ARE joking right? I have one of the highest post counts? I wouldn't just talk/Spam so much for nothing!

I believe Beefy was listing people who played in both this and mafia VII.

[Beefy187]

Tratorix is correct. Yea that post was rather confusing.. Ill go edit it

[Quintus.JC]

I meant all players.


List of players who are playing and played mafia VII
Ichigo
TinCow
woad&fangs
shlin28
makaikhaan (Seireikhaan)
Sasaki Kojiro
LittleGrizzly
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Tratorix
LittleGrizzly
Andres
Beefy187
Tiberius of the Drake
KukriKhan
TevashSzat
|Sith|R|AntiWarmanCake88
Lord Winter
CountArach
Rythmic
Seamus Fermanagh
Quintus.J.Cicero
ATPG

I think thats everyone who played and are here atm. Correct me if Im wrong

I don't think ATPG played, or did he have a different user name?

[Beefy187]

He probs didnt.. I got confused by Ares list

Ill fix that unless someone says otherwise

[TinCow]

Very, very interesting. No spelling/grammar errors in the first kill (at least as far as I can tell on a single read without coffee) and a second kill that is copied from a previous game. Honestly, I would like to take a moment to give a nod of respect to whoever did that. I've been pondering the best manner to disguise one's own writing style, but that never even occurred to me. It's an exceptionally brilliant move.

I have done a bit of searching for various bits of the other three kill write-ups. As far as I can tell, all three are original and only the second one on N2 was copied from another game. I don't think this is a coincidence. I think one of the mafioso was uncomfortable having his writing style analyzed last turn, and came up with a perfect way to avoid it in the future. This makes me think I was correct in my profiling. I suspect one of the mafioso is young, probably a teenager and still in high/secondary school. English as a second language is still possible, but the general writing style was good. There were a few careless errors and one classic violation of grammar rules. This reminds me of young native-English speaking writers. People who have English as a second language tend to make more errors or none at all.

I will stick with my original vote from last round, as he still qualifies by the above:
Vote: 187Beefyz

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Writeup analysis is a dead end unless you guys think it's enough to lynch. There's more than one person who could have made errors in grammar, and they're easy to make deliberately. I made some on purpose in one of my replies to you yesterday.

Now, when we get down to around 10 people and have a whole string of write ups it can be a useful tool but ya'll ought to stick to thread.

[Reenk Roink]

Vote: Seamus Fermanagh

He is probably Mafia and tried to implicate me. I am absolutely not Mafia.

[shlin28]

Hmmm... why is the "indirect" killer always using "baby-eating" as a method to force people to eat babies?

Is this an attempt to frame me or Tincow? (WIFOM I know...)

Apart from that, I got nothing.

PS: This CoP job is really easy isn't it? All I gotta do is say something vaguely connected to the game, then I can waltz back to my Crystal Palace.

[Reenk Roink]

PS: This CoP job is really easy isn't it? All I gotta do is say something vaguely connected to the game, then I can waltz back to my Crystal Palace.

I put you in power and will remove you if need be.

[shlin28]

*Reads whole thread in panic in order to find someone to accuse*

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Grist for analysis: Thus far (post #385)....

User Name, # of Posts , # Posts after play starts

Askthepizzaguy 42 36
777Ares777 31 28
GeneralHankerchief 31
Andres 23 22
TinCow 22 21
Sasaki Kojiro 21 19
187Beefyz 19 18
YLC 19 17
shlin28 16 15
Quintus.JC 14 13
Seamus Fermanagh 13 11
seireikhaan 13 11
CountArach 13
Reenk Roink 11 7
TevashSzat 10 9
LittleGrizzly 10 9
Chaotix27 8 7
White_eyes:D 8 7
Sigurd 8 4
boudica 7 6
glyphz 7 6
Rythmic 6 5
Gaius Scribonius Curio 6 5
Lord Winter 6 5
Jolt 6 5
Tratorix 5 4
Ichigo 3 2
taka 2 1
Ignoramus 2 1
Myrddraal 2
Ituralde 1

Host, Not Playing, Murdered, Lynched, Chief of Police

What do I view as points of interest here? Lets see....:

1. taka and Iggy are in total lurk mode. However, both have voted to avoid WOG status....

2. Sigurd is quite a bit less active than usual for him, moreover, his posts have been shorter and less analytical than typical -- though to be fair we're only done with N2, so it's early.

3. I cannot recall the time I saw Beefy this active in only 3D, 2N. Admittedly, he was targeted a bit by Tincow, but....

4. Andres is also quite active. I'm used to our noble moderator, when not hosting, being a bit below the high end of the posting list.

5. Not sure on Ares, he's active, but I have less of a sense of him so far. Comments from others?



Regarding the Death Write ups.

YES there are clues there, there always are. Especially in a game where the Mafiosi take the lead writer's role as GH has stated is the case here.

HOWEVER, as Sasaki notes, this kind of data -- barring a major gaffe -- tends not to be decisive early on. All we know for sure is that we have two themes running so far. 1st theme is direct v indirect (noted by White Eyes) and a second is common means of death (pre-placed knives N1, drowning N2). All this tells us is that the killers enjoy a little thematic gaming -- something I always loved as mafia -- but that characteristic isn't all that rare in this crowd.

However, noting the "lifting" of a previous scene almost in its entirety may be significant. We may have at least one mafioso who is high on google-fu and research. Most folks just do it their own way, but this person went and researched past games -- probably for some time -- to select one and minimize style recognition. This "lifting" occurred well enough in advance to be coordinated with the other killers, so that the theme could be contiguous.

Obviously, these mafia are organized, probalby using an external thread -- again, not uncommon.


Based on differing activity level, as well as Tincow's concerns, I'd like to here a proper defense from Beefy.

Unvote: Abstain

Vote: 187Beefyz


Tally as of post #390

187Beefyz = 2 (Seamus, Tincow)
Sasaki = 2 (GSC, YLC)
Abstain = 1 (White Eyes)

Implied Abstain = 8 (Shlin, Tevash, Ares, Chaotix, Grizz, Beefy. QJC, Tratorix, Reenk)

Dead = 5 (Ichigo, Boudica, 'khaan, trat, arach)

No Vote = 10