The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2009, 11:19

You're online at the moment, Gaius.

Would you be so kind as to sit tight and answer some questions for me? You're my top suspect.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2009, 11:30

Because people whine when I post long analysis/accusations:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Bottom line: Gaius scribonius curio, I find your playing style in this game to be an act without substance. Please explain yourself. Why all these hollow analyses that lead nowhere, and votes for no good reasoning? Why were you in the lead against Sasaki?

**Gaius Scribonius Curio** · 02-09-2009, 11:37

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Because people whine when I post long analysis/accusations:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Bottom line: Gaius scribonius curio, I find your playing style in this game to be an act without substance. Please explain yourself. Why all these hollow analyses that lead nowhere, and votes for no good reasoning? Why were you in the lead against Sasaki?

Gah!

Well you did as I asked. Look will be back tomorrow but for now...

Anyone who has played with me before knows that this particular 'playing style' is one that I always use. I like to speculate. The fact that my analyses lead 'nowhere' is down to the fact that it is speculation at this early stage. Would you prefer I said nothing? I'm sharing my speculations because I might trigger someone elses feelings/ thoughts in a similar vein, or I may not? I'm merely trying to help. And yes someone ripped off my kill description. I'm not happy about that. And define in the lead against Sasaki? I don't follow.

Now I'm really sorry but I have to go...

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2009, 11:53

Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio

Anyone who has played with me before knows that this particular 'playing style' is one that I always use. I like to speculate.

As do I.

The fact that my analyses lead 'nowhere' is down to the fact that it is speculation at this early stage.

Yes. And I know I'm the wrong person to be making this observation, but your analysis seems automatic, prepared, and forced to me. It's just a feeling I am getting from your writing. There is an aura of "fertilizer" wafting from those posts.

Maybe you are just trying to help, but I feel you're acting out of sorts and I must question it.

Would you prefer I said nothing?

I'd prefer you said more. You had 7 posts at the time I was first accusing you, long winded posts that lead nowhere, excuses for not being here, no real attempts at discussion, but several of provoking discussion perhaps.

All these excuses don't sit well with me. I haven't even been HERE at the proper times to play this game, and I've contributed more than you have. I'm a bad example because I never shut up, but I don't buy that you have the best interests of the town at heart when you show up, post a big one, and skip out citing real life as a reason why you cannot be here to be questioned properly.

I'm sharing my speculations because I might trigger someone elses feelings/ thoughts in a similar vein, or I may not?

Yes, that much I understand. It's just something about the helpless, futile tone of your conclusions, and the utter RANDOMness of your voting, plus all your excuses which tells me something is awry.

I'm merely trying to help.

We would know that already, you are sounding too apologetic and defensive. You have no need to suggest you're trying to help, that's implied.

And yes someone ripped off my kill description. I'm not happy about that. And define in the lead against Sasaki? I don't follow.

You're not happy about it? Why?

That's too esoteric and vague a clue as to be a false implication that you're guilty from the mafia. In fact, if you had remained silent on the matter, I would have found it interesting if someone had come forward accusing you of being mafia on such odd evidence.

That evidence is seriously weird. It's far too vague to be an attempt at framing you, because anyone who comes forward with such evidence will be looked at as if they had three heads.

I think someone could be ripping off your kills, perhaps not trying to frame you, but it's VERY odd that they did that. And that you're talking about it. And your other behavior.

As for the Sasaki thing, you were one of the 3 people voting for him. Now this sudden change of vote... why? Are you trying to cover your tracks to hide the fact that you're one of the people responsible for his lynch, and if so, why?

Since you had nothing real to go on for White_Eyes, and you have no idea if Sasaki is innocent or not, why unvote and change your vote?

It's your prerogative to do so, but it seems random and irresponsible to me, and bad for town. Mafia tend to unvote more often than townies, because they have more reason to manipulate the tally than naive townies do.

Now I'm really sorry but I have to go...

And this piques my curiosity even further.

Why are you pressing all my scumtell buttons, Gaius Scribonius Curio? I wonder whose side you're really on here.

That said, there is no way town will lynch you this round, and I won't be here tomorrow to prosecute you, so I suppose you escape this day from my inquisition. Better for town if I were wrong about you. But consider what I have said about the oddities in your behavior, and whether or not these are objectively valid reasons to wonder what the heck you're up to.

If you're a townie, it's in everyone's best interest that you don't make smoke signals that suggest you're a mafioso. Do as you will, but know that I think you're a scumbag at this moment.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2009, 11:57

And, because I think neither Sasaki or Lord Winter is more scummy than you, I have no preference as to which one of them dies.

I'm voting you in protest of your odd behavior.

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Gaius Scribonius Curio

**boudica** · 02-09-2009, 12:39

I think the ripped off kill is weird. The only reason I can think of that GSC would do that deliberately himself, would be to set up a WIFOM situation that kind of favours him with its unlikeliness!

Anyway, it is ALOT more tenuous than the idea that Beefyz was framed, but I find the vote change odd and as it looks like ATPG has got his jaw clamped and locked on to GSC now, it's probably almost worth lynching him tomorrow so you can move on to someone else

Sorry - one read through is not enough for anylsis from beyond the grave, but I'll follow with interest and try to do some helpful haunting later.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2009, 12:43

I'm here, so I have to get my posts in when I'm available...

I would be happy to let go of GSC and not burn him at the stake if he could explain his actions in a way that makes sense to me. Although nothing he can say can fully "clear" him, he could at least help me to understand the bizarre-ness of his posting behavior, such that other people would be a higher priority target.

If he does not fully explain his odd behavior, I will fully lock on to him and pester him until he's dead or I am, and death isn't something that generally shuts me up.

**Gaius Scribonius Curio** · 02-09-2009, 11:31

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You're online at the moment, Gaius.

Would you be so kind as to sit tight and answer some questions for me? You're my top suspect.

Look I sorry but I really have to go, as I said before you posted. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions tomorrow afternoon my time. Outline your case, including the questions you want answers too and I shall attend to them. One by One if needs be.

I know this is inconvenient but one week out from finals my team needs me....

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2009, 11:36

Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio

Look I sorry but I really have to go, as I said before you posted. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions tomorrow afternoon my time. Outline your case, including the questions you want answers too and I shall attend to them. One by One if needs be.

I know this is inconvenient but one week out from finals my team needs me....

Right.

I suppose I have to accept that explanation, although you must know I will not be online tomorrow to question you.

I have a worthless case against you, I know, but even this hasty departure from you does not sit right with me, big fella.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2009, 11:39

Your team here needs you as well. I don't suppose you would mind if we lynched you next round to make sure?

I know people have real lives, but real life excuses, fabricated or real, are often mafia dodges. If real life is that much of a drain on your time, then it follows that since this is just a silly online game, you wouldn't mind it too terribly much if we lynched you sooner rather than later?

edit;
And I know I haven't been here either at the right times, but I was here for 10 straight hours or more to be questioned. You seem like you're hiding.

**TinCow** · 02-09-2009, 15:18

I have read through the rest in detail now. Musings on a few people who have been discussed:

Curio: If I were the Godfather, Curio would be very high on my list for grunt selection. He's a very good player, always contributes something worthwhile to the town, and yet never seems to become high profile. He's the kind of person who could avoid being investigated and lynched for a long time. However, I don't buy ATPG's accusations against him. The only one I saw that had any merits was him spotting the plagiarism of his own kill write-up. While this is a curious situation and poses WIFOM issues, it just doesn't seem right to me. I could see intentionally copying one's own work to make oneself look innocent, but I would have expected this 'copycat write-up' MO to start on turn 1 if it was planned in this manner, especially with an experienced player like Curio. The N2 plagiarism still seems like improv to me in reaction to fear of leaking further 'tells' into write-ups. Curio just doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would do that. He would plan it from the beginning. That said, there is another grunt out there, and the Godfather as well.

Jolt: Interesting situation. His vote on LG is exceptionally reactionary and it doesn't have any decent reasoning behind it. It was a pure retaliatory vote. More pressure on Jolt is probably warranted. I would like to request an opinion from people who know his playing style better than I. Would Jolt be so haphazard as to do a pure retaliatory vote as mafia, or would he be more tactical?

Lord Winter: Also interesting. Sasaki has probed him and he has reacted in a particularly tender fashion. He looks like a promising candidate this round, though I could simply be blinded by Sasaki's reasoning.

However, I don't think my vote is needed on Lord Winter. I will shift it there later if necessary to keep Sasaki alive, but for now that doesn't seem to be required. Instead, I will follow up on an exceptionally good point, made by Andres. With the increasingly verbose games we've had lately, lurking is becoming a very viable mafia tactic. I hate lurkers, because they give me nothing to work with. Sigurd would also be an excellent choice for a grunt. Thus, I will follow Andres' lead and push for more conversation from Sigurd.

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Sigurd

I would also like to thank Sasaki for this:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

This is a very useful description of how to analyze in-thread behavior. I've felt a bit out of place when doing this and have not been very successful in the past. The above explanation of the theory behind it was something of an epiphany for me. Many thanks, Sasaki.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-09-2009, 15:37

Lord Winter: 4 - (Sasaki, White_eyes:D, YLC, Askthepizzaguy)

Sasaki Kojiro: 3 - (Gaius Scribonius Curio, Reenk Roink, TevashSzat)
Sigurd: 2 - (Andres, TinCow)

187Beefyz: 1 - (Seamus Fermanagh)
TinCow: 1 - (777Ares777)
Jolt: 1 - (LittleGrizzly)
LittleGrizzly: 1 - (Jolt)

Abstain: LW, Beefy, taka, Rythmic, etc... (others?)

Good Sasaki quote, TinCow. More of my blah, blah, blah-ing in spoilers, because I'm sure people are sick of hearing me talk.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**shlin28** · 02-09-2009, 17:54

The CoP returns!

My (very short) list of suspicious people:

1. Lord Winter - As stated before by others. Also, his excuses are not really that good. If he was online during Sasaki's inquisition, it would not take 20 minutes to make a reply - From what I gather he was active during those 20 minutes on the Org right?

2. YLC - He's just too suspicious for his own good.

Random stuff:

I find it interesting the mafia this time is killing off the mainly mid-range posters. Not lurkers, but not the too active people either. Maybe the mafia is still deciding on whether to go with the "Kill the people who talk too much" or "Kill the people who talk too little", or maybe they are just rather inexperienced...?

That's all for now

*A golden armoured giant robot standing nearby transforms into a platinum coated limousine, in the process also revealing a golden brick path leading from the CoP to the door of the limo. The CoP is carried by his silver armoured servants into the limo, which then flies off into the general direction of the CoP's Pleasure Palace of Pure Awsomeness.*

Edit: Lol at ATPG's mistake

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