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    Default Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    You're online at the moment, Gaius.

    Would you be so kind as to sit tight and answer some questions for me? You're my top suspect.
    Look I sorry but I really have to go, as I said before you posted. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions tomorrow afternoon my time. Outline your case, including the questions you want answers too and I shall attend to them. One by One if needs be.

    I know this is inconvenient but one week out from finals my team needs me....
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    Default Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio View Post
    Look I sorry but I really have to go, as I said before you posted. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions tomorrow afternoon my time. Outline your case, including the questions you want answers too and I shall attend to them. One by One if needs be.

    I know this is inconvenient but one week out from finals my team needs me....
    Right.

    I suppose I have to accept that explanation, although you must know I will not be online tomorrow to question you.

    I have a worthless case against you, I know, but even this hasty departure from you does not sit right with me, big fella.
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    Default Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)

    Your team here needs you as well. I don't suppose you would mind if we lynched you next round to make sure?

    I know people have real lives, but real life excuses, fabricated or real, are often mafia dodges. If real life is that much of a drain on your time, then it follows that since this is just a silly online game, you wouldn't mind it too terribly much if we lynched you sooner rather than later?


    edit;
    And I know I haven't been here either at the right times, but I was here for 10 straight hours or more to be questioned. You seem like you're hiding.
    Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 02-09-2009 at 11:59.
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    I have read through the rest in detail now. Musings on a few people who have been discussed:

    Curio: If I were the Godfather, Curio would be very high on my list for grunt selection. He's a very good player, always contributes something worthwhile to the town, and yet never seems to become high profile. He's the kind of person who could avoid being investigated and lynched for a long time. However, I don't buy ATPG's accusations against him. The only one I saw that had any merits was him spotting the plagiarism of his own kill write-up. While this is a curious situation and poses WIFOM issues, it just doesn't seem right to me. I could see intentionally copying one's own work to make oneself look innocent, but I would have expected this 'copycat write-up' MO to start on turn 1 if it was planned in this manner, especially with an experienced player like Curio. The N2 plagiarism still seems like improv to me in reaction to fear of leaking further 'tells' into write-ups. Curio just doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would do that. He would plan it from the beginning. That said, there is another grunt out there, and the Godfather as well.

    Jolt: Interesting situation. His vote on LG is exceptionally reactionary and it doesn't have any decent reasoning behind it. It was a pure retaliatory vote. More pressure on Jolt is probably warranted. I would like to request an opinion from people who know his playing style better than I. Would Jolt be so haphazard as to do a pure retaliatory vote as mafia, or would he be more tactical?

    Lord Winter: Also interesting. Sasaki has probed him and he has reacted in a particularly tender fashion. He looks like a promising candidate this round, though I could simply be blinded by Sasaki's reasoning.

    However, I don't think my vote is needed on Lord Winter. I will shift it there later if necessary to keep Sasaki alive, but for now that doesn't seem to be required. Instead, I will follow up on an exceptionally good point, made by Andres. With the increasingly verbose games we've had lately, lurking is becoming a very viable mafia tactic. I hate lurkers, because they give me nothing to work with. Sigurd would also be an excellent choice for a grunt. Thus, I will follow Andres' lead and push for more conversation from Sigurd.

    Unvote: Abstain
    Vote: Sigurd


    I would also like to thank Sasaki for this:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    One of the things we look for in mafia is posts that indicate that the suspicion is not genuine and arrived at by artificial means. Your posts indicated that you weren't genuinely suspicious of Seamus and you are admitting that now--you aren't voting for him or anyone on the reenk bandwagon today and are waiting "for something good to come up" instead of looking on your own. It's easy to see how a mafioso would come in on day one, try to find a reason to vote, make one up without thinking about it too hard, get called on it and back off, and then avoid accusing someone on day 2.


    This is a very useful description of how to analyze in-thread behavior. I've felt a bit out of place when doing this and have not been very successful in the past. The above explanation of the theory behind it was something of an epiphany for me. Many thanks, Sasaki.
    Last edited by TinCow; 02-09-2009 at 15:19.


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    Default Tally

    Lord Winter: 4 - (Sasaki, White_eyes:D, YLC, Askthepizzaguy)

    Sasaki Kojiro: 3 - (Gaius Scribonius Curio, Reenk Roink, TevashSzat)
    Sigurd: 2 - (Andres, TinCow)

    187Beefyz: 1 - (Seamus Fermanagh)
    TinCow: 1 - (777Ares777)
    Jolt: 1 - (LittleGrizzly)
    LittleGrizzly: 1 - (Jolt)

    Abstain: LW, Beefy, taka, Rythmic, etc... (others?)

    Good Sasaki quote, TinCow. More of my blah, blah, blah-ing in spoilers, because I'm sure people are sick of hearing me talk.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    I think you could be right about GSC... it may not quite fit the bill. I just saw a bunch of things I considered bad or strange play and/or scummy, and found him to be an excellent candidate for grunt. Plus he seems to be totally dodging being questioned or participating for more than 10 minutes at a time. I'd like a resolution to those points from him before I drop it.

    Jolt: Can't say he's guilty or innocent, but I know that purely retaliatory votes are something I'd avoid as a mafioso. When townies make scummy-looking mistakes at this early stage of the game, you have to wonder how bone-headed a mafia would have to be to make those same mistakes, as it's likely they'd get lynched for such reasons in lieu of better arguments.

    Lord Winter: I'm having second thoughts, but the low activity and veteran status combined with sort of a low-key play style and the spelling stuff means that if we just totally overlook him as a top suspect, we aren't doing a very thorough job.

    I'd think that the mafia, as a team, however, would catch Lord Winter's writing style before it makes it to print... possibly, perhaps, not even choosing him as a grunt to begin with due to GH's lack of editing. All this is speculation.

    And I don't think Sigurd should ever be allowed to lurk again. If not Lord Winter, go ahead and string him up.

    I'd be willing to take my vote off of Lord Winter as well, but I don't know... Sigurd has been mafia a LOT lately... making him a grunt is a bad choice. Especially if he lurks. They must think we are total morons to pick Sigurd and have him lurk again. I have doubts it's Sigurd for like, what is it, 4th time in a row? That being said, he's not particularly helpful, and I refuse to lose to a lurker again.
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    Default Re: The Godfather, Part 3 (IN PLAY)

    The CoP returns!

    My (very short) list of suspicious people:

    1. Lord Winter - As stated before by others. Also, his excuses are not really that good. If he was online during Sasaki's inquisition, it would not take 20 minutes to make a reply - From what I gather he was active during those 20 minutes on the Org right?

    2. YLC - He's just too suspicious for his own good.

    Random stuff:

    I find it interesting the mafia this time is killing off the mainly mid-range posters. Not lurkers, but not the too active people either. Maybe the mafia is still deciding on whether to go with the "Kill the people who talk too much" or "Kill the people who talk too little", or maybe they are just rather inexperienced...?

    That's all for now

    *A golden armoured giant robot standing nearby transforms into a platinum coated limousine, in the process also revealing a golden brick path leading from the CoP to the door of the limo. The CoP is carried by his silver armoured servants into the limo, which then flies off into the general direction of the CoP's Pleasure Palace of Pure Awsomeness.*

    Edit: Lol at ATPG's mistake
    Last edited by shlin28; 02-09-2009 at 17:56.


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    Mafia would logically kill off the active, so bye bye me, ATPG, tincow and andres (unless one of us in mafia of course or becomes a massive suspect)


    The GSC is intriging, hardly daming, but certainly something to keep caps on, Lord winter has been lurky in his other games so i wouldnt say he was mafia here, i would say other lurkers who are usually more active should be in the spotlight, such as Sigurd.


    While i still stand by my vote for tincow I see it will go nowhere so I'll
    unvote, vote: Sigurd

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