The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

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I agree that Tevash was likely mafia. For a while, I thought his lack of response was simply due to inactivity or RL issues. However, I just checked and he was online yesterday. If Tevash was the real detective, he almost certainly would have posted in here berating us for being idiots. His silence after that detective reveal and lynching seems to be a pretty strong suggestion of his guilt.

shlin has some interesting behavior when Tevash suddenly became vulnerable. He had a total of three posts between ATPG's 'Skynet' mega-post and when the heat got seriously turned up on Tevash. All of them were either jovial/joking in nature or completely lacking in serious analysis, which is consistent with shlin's previous play style. However, once Tevash's lynch starts looking more likely, he suddenly drops the silliness and gets serious with actual arguments, which is inconsistent with his general lackadaisical participation in the game. First, he proposes sparing Tevash for a round. Shortly after this, Tevash claims he is the detective. shlin's response to this is to spare Tevash and look to see if he gets killed by mafia as proof of his innocence. Note that instead of asking for more evidence from Tevash, he focuses the 'proof' of Tevash's claim exclusively on the mafia killing or not killing him in the future. This is then followed up with serious posts with decent reasoning. He then makes no jokes at all while waiting to find out Tevash's fate. After ATPG's lynch, shlin then put a decent amount of effort into explaining why ATPG was a better lynch than Tevash, even though the issue was already decided.

After the following night phase, despite Tevash not getting killed by the mafia (which shlin had previously theorized would be proof of his guilt), shlin discourages a lynching of Tevash. He then provides excuses about why Tevash hasn't replied yet, followed by posts which defend Tevash.

So, up until this point, shlin has gone out of his way to defend Tevash. He stopped posting in a silly/joking manner and put forth effort on actual debate and analysis. He spends a very long period of time specifically giving Tevash every opportunity he can think of, and even when he acknowledges that Tevash might have some scumminess about him, he encourages that he not be lynched and that the town wait for the mafia's actions to prove whether Tevash is guilty or not. And then, when the votes start piling up on Tevash...

shlin makes a complete 180 degree turn and goes for Tevash's throat. Voting is then closed with Tevash in the lead, and shlin chooses that moment, before the lynch write-up is even complete, to claim that both the grunts are dead and that only the Godfather is left.

Where does he go after this? Why, back to his non-analystical and joking posting style, of course. He then reminds us again that both grunts are dead and claims this is due to a write-up which occurred AFTER he stated this the first time.

D'oh!

Curses and Drat. I still believe TevashSzat was a mafia, given his sudden drop off of the face of the thread while he was still active in the forum.

Where we go from here: I'd look at shlin's scummy defense of TevashSzat several pages back, where I was a bit too energetic and I spoilered most of my case because I thought the case was good but the attitude wasn't, and I didn't want to do a re-write, because that's scummy.


You don't defend people you don't know are innocent. That's not good townie play. You can suggest that they are innocent, but don't stick your neck out for them. That's my opinion on 99% of the cases. Don't argue their defense for them.



Time for a new Chief of Police. This one is more concerned with staying alive and defending suspicious characters than finding mafia.


EDIT:

Possible candidate for Chief of Police:

Someone who has been suicidal with his life. YLC, who is no longer with us. Therefore: Pevergreen.

However, some of you find my interactions with YLC scummy, which is silly. YLC would have to have been the Godfather. And if you think after all that, YLC is the Godfather, I simply don't know what Occam's Razor means to you.

So, other candidates: Taka
Frankly, anyone who lurks this much and has been threatened to be lynched for it, posted no defense and seemingly allows it to happen, ain't no Godfather. But! If you're too scared, let's offer another one:

(Remember, the nominee must be someone who logically speaking cannot be the Godfather)

I was thinking White_Eyes, but it's a little risky. What if he were the Godfather lynching his own subordinate, Lord Winter?

The others I cannot fully, comprehensively clear. But I would be inclined to trust Andres... he hasn't been controlling the game and he never triggered my scum alarms.

I'd suggest Beefy187... but... to be honest, he's due. He's due to be a mafia and show us all how awesome he really, really is. As such, I don't want to risk it.

Quintus.JC and Chaotix27... I feel they are innocent. But you know, the Godfather would easily slip past my detection if they supported me over TevashSzat. Last ditch effort to help themselves win. That said, I don't feel they are guilty.

I'm sorry, but YLC is the best choice. Pevergreen is the replacement, he suicided as the Godfather? Nope. Never gonna happen. He voted himself and got himself nearly lynched and kept his vote on himself? Nope. Never gonna happen.





Nominate: YLC/pevergreen as new Chief of Police. Sorry, Shlin... you had a good run, no hard feelings, I believe you needed to work harder at catching suspects and less harder on defending people you couldn't know were innocent.