The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

[Beefy187]

Err... not to shoot holes in your logic, there, but I think the point of it being a random selection of the CoP means there is an equal chance of mafia being chosen as anyone else. The selection was "random", not "random except for the Godfather".

I figured that. But if we keep on lynching the CoP...

Beside its Reenk. its REENK!

[taka]

i too dont believe that Reenk is mafia, or else the host is really us up

i'm not fussed to be lynched, that will give me a bit more time to spend on the smaller games which i feel more comfortable with (less reading )

I'll vote: glyphz since it would be either him or me i think and i obviously know im innocent

edit:

sorry, forgot ^^

[GeneralHankerchief]

Bold votes please.

[Beefy187]

Vote: Glyphz

Least taka is here.. Glyphz isn't.

I think we need to lynch at least one.. if not all the lurkers in this game. I just hate letting people win who doesn't put in much effort..

Unless someone builds up a solid case against someone ales my vote goes for Glyphz...

[glyphz]

Okay, finally starting to catch up (from p. 39), but took a look first at the summary thread. This one caught my attention.
Day 7

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[QUOTE=GeneralHankerchief;2142813]Post 1216 of main thread.

Day 7

Today was Seamus Fermanagh's birthday. Upon informing the citizens of the Gameroom of this fact early on in the voting, everybody stopped what they were doing and threw an impromptu party for one of the town's finest residents. It was a nice little break from the frightening monotony of "witness death, face execution, repeat." Everyone had a merry time, forgetting about their fears, if only for a little while.

As the voting phase dragged on (without the Chief of Police present), so did the party. Presents were exchanged, most of them promises that would be honored should they "ever get through this". Somehow, one of the villagers even managed to get their hands on a cake that even had "Happy Birthday Seamus" written in fancy script with icing.

Seamus, honored, cut up the cake and divvied it up between the remaining villagers, saving the biggest slice for himself. What the hey, the chances were good that he was going to die the next couple of days, why not live a little? Later, someone brought back a large case of beer, probably nicked from the Elephant and Cannon Pub.

Merrily, the villagers indulged themselves, and eventually they all started to slur their voices and indulge some deep secrets. It was not uncommon to hear phrases like "You're my besht friend" and "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow" choruses aimed at Seamus that day. The merrymaking continued for a few more hours, and many of the villagers had the best time they had in months, yet alone since the Mafia had began killing everybody.

Eventually, Chief of Police shlin28, looking tanner and satisfied, returned, perplexed at the scene.

"Wait, you people were having a party and no one invited me??!?!" Everybody was silent for a few seconds, and then they all burst out laughing, including shlin. After the laughter died down, the Chief of Police asked everybody if they had come to a decision.

"GUILTY!" a plurality of villagers shouted in unison, pointing their fingers at the birthday boy.

"Oh, *#%!", Seamus muttered, and trudged up to the execution platform. The party was over. Along the way, he continued muttering to himself, and then eventually lashed out at the villagers, calling them all fools, protesting his innocence. Eventually shlin had to intervene as he took hold of Seamus and dragged him forcefully the rest of the way.

"Well, at least there'll be fireworks for the party," shlin said to a thoroughly-depressed Seamus as he shoved him into the cannon. "Too bad it'll be you. Happy Birthday, Seamus," he said, grinning, as he stepped back and lit the match.

"All right, everybody," shlin said, addressing the crowd. "Three... two... one..."

BOOM!

Everybody cheered as Seamus Fermanagh, the day's final festivity, was spectacularly launched into the night, shooting far and wide, and eventually out of everybody's sight. The next town over, in his office, Vincenzo stood up with a start as a charred figure crashed through his window. Recognizing the body as Seamus's, he raised one eyebrow.

Day 7 tally:

Seamus Fermanagh: 4 (Reenk Roink, LittleGrizzly, taka, White_eyes:D)
shlin28: 3 (Andres, Quintus.JC, Seamus Fermanagh)
Reenk Roink: 2 (Chaotix27, Gaius Scribonius Curio)
taka: 1 (pevergreen)

Abstained: 3 (shlin28, glyphz, Beefy187)
Didn't vote: 1 (777Ares777)

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Still alive: (13)
shlin28
pevergreen
777Ares777
Andres
Quintus.JC
White_eyes:D
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
glyphz
Beefy187
taka
LittleGrizzly
Gaius Scribonius Curio

The more I read this, the more I think Seamus was the last grunt. This was a lynch write-up, so no tampering.
Doubt Vincenzo being included (in the write-up) was random. Him recognizing Seamus means something, IMO. I think this event implies that he's now by himself.

Next night N7...

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Post 1251 of main thread.

Night 7

LittleGrizzly was sitting at his home watching T.V. When he heard a knock on the door. He was no fool though, after all the murders that had taken place he had a deadbolt chain-locked door to prevent intruders and stayed away from windows, so he wouldn't be shot by a sniper. He didn't want to be a easy kill, so he answered the door carefully.

When he opened the door with the chain on, there was a man in a business suit, who looked real down. Letting his guard down, he let the man in as he said he had something he wanted to discuss and it was "life threatening". LittleGrizzly was no fool though, he had the man sit on his couch and wait while he went to get some "snacks" which in this case, was a twelve gauge shotgun. Then he came back, only to find him gone. "Damn, I might have let the killer slip though our fingers", growled LittleGrizzly, he then found a box where the man had sat down. Curiosity got the better of him and he decided to open it up and KABLOOEE!! his house, along with several others were wiped off the Gameroom map. Once again, all the Chief of Police found when he arrived was a DVD entitled 'For Seamus', along with massive destruction.

Chief of Police shlin28, after watching and then discarding the DVD, was very annoyed. He had been hard at work all through the night and even the day, creating his greatest lynch method yet in the Gameroom Park. He had been "in the zone", so to speak, and having to drive to the murder scene to deal with yet another explosion had taken him out of his element. Whoever was to get executed tonight had better deserve every second of the awesomeness shlin was about to unleash, strictly for interrupting his work, yet alone killing off most of the town.

After a couple more labor-intensive hours, shlin finally took a step back, looked over at the man with a boombox playing "All My Life" by the Foo Fighters, and looked back at his work.

"There," he said, "It's done. Time to call everybody over."

Some minutes later, the villagers arrived and stared at was was before them. Despite shlin's pronouncements that this would be the greatest method of execution known to mankind, all they saw was leftover stuff from the previous few executions.

"Oh, you'll see," said shlin with a wicked grin on his face. "You will see."

...there was one kill, same as the last one, but the killer left a dedication to Seamus. There was also only 1 other case like this was Night 6: for Sasaki, and one night (N5) after he was killed by the unicyclist, who seems like a different faction from the mafia (the twist?) and seems like to be Psychonaut ( if it is you).
edit: I've yet to check the links

Theory (or at least the vibes I'm getting):
Sasaki Kojiro and Seamus Fermanagh were the grunts.
Take note that both are moderators (green) and seasoned veterans.
Question is who is the Godfather? Or who is likelier to pick Sasaki and Seamus (as his cohorts)?

Someone who has at least played w/ both? Don't know how much it would narrow the field, even if it were a legitimate question.

Still alive:
pevergreen (GH not allowing YLC to be WoG-ed due to inactivity... A role? Then again, if my theory fits, why would YLC want to abandon such a role?)
777Ares777
Andres (as TinCow mentioned, the last moderator standing. Could he have masterminded a green 'rush' against the blues?)
Quintus.JC (unless I'm mistaken, you've put quite an effort to push attention to 'low-posters.' Understandable, or suspicious)
White_eyes:D
Reenk Roink (a very bad coincidence if you were scum and chosen to be the replacement CoP by chance)
Beefy187 (100 posts! Then again, you tend to be in the upper tier in post count in games. Still..)
taka
Gaius Scribonius Curio (Veteran, but do not know much regarding your behavior, thus I cannot judge your activity)

My guesses, but I have doubts about its accuracy. I would appreciate someone giving me a hand on this (or your thoughts, at least).

Tally:

glyphz: 2 - 777Ares777, Beefy187
taka: 1 - Gaius Scribonius Curio

more edits:
attempt at some sort of defense (or for the sake of one)...
I think my post count so far, is pretty similar to previous behavior, not very talkative or 'lurkish' if you will. Relevant or not, I have missed at least 2 votes, and could be an eligible candidate to be WoG-ed, the next time I miss another one. Wouldn't you say that is risky for someone w/ a role, esp. one of the last remaining scum/s?

Anyway, I'd pick between Andres and pevergreen, but em still undecided. Heck, if town (still thinks I'm dubious) wants it, i'll stop posting and (eventually) get WoG-ed. I'd be fine w/ it, and I'd be in every sense be truly LURKING.

[Quintus.JC]

FoS: taka and glyphz

for now. Ill vote them later

I still don’t trust Curio, he probably isn’t classified as a lurker, but some of his posts just seemed to stay off the radar.

Reenk's selection as CoP does not exonerate him at all, as Chaotix has pointed out. However I don't think he is guilty.

Following Quintus's post I'm going to Vote:Taka. Quintus and Beefy together make a good case for him being a 'silent' killer.

Haven't got much time today, but I'll be back tomorrow or tuesday with an analysis of the remaining players, whether I'm lynched, or killed, in the meantime or not.

The above post really complies with Andres’ suspicion of him; slightly lurky, not offering his full opinion, Curio is normally much more in depth than this. Also the neutral tone in his posts, he has been off the radar throughout the game, with the exception of Andres no one has really put any pressure on him.

i too dont believe that Reenk is mafia, or else the host is really 'ing us up

i'm not fussed to be lynched, that will give me a bit more time to spend on the smaller games which i feel more comfortable with (less reading )

I'll vote: glyphz since it would be either him or me i think and i obviously know im innocent

Taka’s defence is consistent with all the other games – busy in RealLife. And he genuinely doesn’t seems too fussed about getting lynched either, so I’m less certain about him.

Theory (or at least the vibes I'm getting):
Sasaki Kojiro and Seamus Fermanagh were the grunts.
Take note that both are moderators (green) and seasoned veterans.
Question is who is the Godfather? Or who is likelier to pick Sasaki and Seamus (as his cohorts)?

Someone who has at least played w/ both? Don't know how much it would narrow the field, even if it were a legitimate question.

Sasaki and Seamus would both be extremely dangerous picks since both are seasoned veterans, and therefore too obvious to be picked, but then they would be great picks because no one would be risky enough to pick them. I still think its unlikely that a person would pick both of them to be grunts though.

This is officially the first game I’ve played with Sasaki. Mafia VIII really shouldn’t count since it was my first mafia game and I practically got lost between all the FOS and the WOGs.

attempt at some sort of defense (or for the sake of one)...
I think my post count so far, is pretty similar to previous behavior, not very talkative or 'lurkish' if you will. Relevant or not, I have missed at least 2 votes, and could be an eligible candidate to be WoG-ed, the next time I miss another one. Wouldn't you say that is risky for someone w/ a role, esp. one of the last remaining scum/s?

Your post count and pattern is very similar to previous behaviour, problem is with this style you’ ve evaded attention and got to the end game as mafia countless times. Everyone remembers Ephesus, you also lurked in Whisper in the Night as mafia and got the last round (in the form of a perfect silence killer as well), with a team of Stonecutters you also survived the Simpsons mafia and emerged victorious after killing all the townsfolks.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Another failure on my part.

I am going to commit seppuku and shut up. But frankly I think Reenk is a good choice.



Good play by the mafia in this one. Lurkers are also fine with me.

[glyphz]

Sasaki and Seamus would both be extremely dangerous picks since both are seasoned veterans, and therefore too obvious to be picked, but then they would be great picks because no one would be risky enough to pick them. I still think its unlikely that a person would pick both of them to be grunts though.

Unlikely you might say, but my theory stems from the write-up progression (lynch write-ups > kill write-ups), more notable in the separate Summary thread, where it filters out the 'noise.' IMO, in such a classic game, reliable info comes out of write-ups (again, lynch write-ups > kill write-ups) & authentic detective reveal (sigh). I do suggest reading the write-ups in order, Sasaki's and especially Seamus' circumstances ('death,' 'post-death') are unique and IMO obvious 'tells.'

Your post count and pattern is very similar to previous behaviour, problem is with this style you’ ve evaded attention and got to the end game as mafia countless times. Everyone remembers Ephesus, you also lurked in Whisper in the Night as mafia and got the last round (in the form of a perfect silence killer as well), with a team of Stonecutters you also survived the Simpsons mafia and emerged victorious after killing all the townsfolks.

The defense (or an excuse for one) was for the sake of one, other than "I'm innocent!." Can't really prove it. No way I can.
You're opinion, however, is an affirmation, of what I want to act if I get scum roles: not very distinguishable when I play townie. Even if it bites me when I play games where I'm pro-town (Such as this game, dare I say).