The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-22-2009, 13:28

I accuse 777Ares777

The spoiler is the complete list of your actions, more or less, in the game. it has not been formatted for easy viewing, so I am going to follow Andres and Tincow's advice and skip down to the HUMANISH version:

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Early game: Lots of jokes and activity. Has trouble with grammar and spelling. Defends Beefy187 and talks about the game writeups. Begins hammering Sasaki Kojiro. Doesn't let up on him for a while.

Early/middle game:
Activity drops off substantially. He posts once or twice a page, and is absent for long periods. Lazily accuses YLC and Ignoramus, who both turn out to be innocent or 99% innocent.

Accuses me, which is fine. But then he suddenly does an about face and gets a stroke of genius: Defend Askthepizzaguy.

Middle/late game:
Nothing much in activity pages 10 or 11. Is "convinced I am innocent" page 12 (80ppp)

Totally bandwagons TevashSzat and follows my lead completely. At this point he drops below everyone's radar, allowing me to make a giant mess of things while he starts to lurk.

Late game:
Defends beefy some more later... does a lazy analysis post 1252, and starts voting lurkers.

He is very adamant and outspoken about his belief that the heavy posters are innocent (convenient, since he's a heavy poster) and the lurkers must be guilty.

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Activity:
He was here for every single night phase, from my earlier activity report on shlin28... where I wasn't even focused on him! I was very thorough for a reason...

voting pattern:

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Analysis: the character of his voting has changed to suit his needs. Instead of doing proper analyses, he sees fit to abstain (less suspicion on him that way) or bandwagon the lurkers or the people I have accused.

Bottom line:

His activity during all the night phases is a tell. His early accuse of me, followed by a sudden reversal, followed by massive amounts of "post-lurking" (lurk, lurk, lurk, quickpost, disappear) shows that he wants to lurk and not gain attention, but not get fingered for lurking. He's made a point of arguing that people who post more are innocent.

Ever since I did my earlier judgment call that he was innocent, he's been basically sucking up to me. He's been gliding through the game with no suspicion on him of note, he's been very active but hasn't contributed that much, especially in the late game where he's been forced to make big decisions which he's backed off from.

From this, if he were the Godfather, his strategy seems obvious. Show up and do your night murders, and lurk during the day, do a lazy post here and there to keep the post count high enough, support the bandwagon on most everyone I've accused, and pick on the lurkers.

Is he scum? This isn't proof. However. If he were the Godfather, this would explain a lot.

Refuses the Chief of Police role. Gives excuse (browser froze) for not doing more. Precisely the same excuse Rythmic gave in Family Guy.

He's never had any real heat on him. His mafia scum partners would probably have avoided mentioning him altogether, and if they did mention him, they never would have gone after him.

He's the top candidate at the moment to be the Godfather.

**White_eyes:D** · 02-22-2009, 13:55

Once again everybody seems to have there own ideas who is guilty.....feels like "Chicago Soiree" all over again......

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-22-2009, 13:56

Say the word, White_eyes, and I will stop posting.

**White_eyes:D** · 02-22-2009, 13:58

No at least your giving me some back-up thoughts.....I was going to vote taka.....but now....not so sure....

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-22-2009, 14:02

Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

No at least your giving me some back-up thoughts.....I was going to vote taka.....but now....not so sure....

Folks, if you will bear with me, I am almost done doing my small part of this game. All I can do is a lot of legwork. You must decide. This is my FINAL SkyNet analysis for this game. If, after this, I fail to produce the Godfather, I am scrapping SkyNet forever.

And, when I am done doing this final analysis, I will drop off the face of the earth.

To give more on why refusing to be the CoP is scummy:

What townie does that? What mafia does that, you say?

He knows the mafia have fewer votes when that happens. He wants to control the endgame. He does not want to give up that control. Nor does he want to be in the spotlight. What townie would pass up a chance to be one of the final 3 remaining?

Only the mafia would refuse to be the CoP, so far as I can tell. Pose your reasons why any one of you townies would refuse. It's an offer you can't refuse. True, eventually he couldn't choose... but I have a feeling he protested his case to GH, who said "randomly".

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-22-2009, 14:59

Analysis complete. Merging posts.

777Ares777 is my choice. He is the only one that a solid case can be made against.

And now that I've completely worn out my welcome, and everyone in the game has been fully analyzed... I've done all I can. And like I said, if I am wrong... you can at least say I gave it my best try, and I'll flush SkyNet forever.

I'm dead.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 02-22-2009, 15:55

Hm, not too many votes this round. I may have to extend things.

-edit- This game is now my most popular ever, post-wise. I wonder if we'll beat Midgard.

**CountArach** · 02-22-2009, 13:58

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Accuses me, which is fine. But then he suddenly does an about face and gets a stroke of genius: Defend Askthepizzaguy.

This to me seems like the most damning piece of evidence and I would think that an explanation is in order.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-22-2009, 14:24

Taka

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Hold it right there.
I think we agree that Tevash and Lord Winter seem like scum. They both FoS'ed Taka. Taka has been under pressure all game for lurking, and hasn't bothered to defend himself. He hasn't been murdered because he's lynchbait. He doesn't care if he dies. He makes a "too risky" move by being one of the deciding votes on Sigurd.

Chance of being scum is too low, given the other suspects and how people haven't defended him at all. I even suggested it would be OK to lynch all the lurkers before the game is over. I never fully cleared him, I said lynch him before the game is over. No one reacted. No one cares if he dies.

He's innocent, if the reasoning holds. Feel free to correct me or tell me to shush up.

glyphz:

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Activity: Active 3 nights out of 6 that I analyzed.

Voting pattern:

Seamus 2a
didnt vote 3
Capper on Sigurd day 4
Abstains 5
Tevash 5a (to tie)
Abstains 6
Abstains 7
Capper on Shlin day 8

Analysis:
Lurks most of the game, but makes risky CAPPER votes frequently. Thats risky for the Godfather because anyone who makes a decisive vote is suspicious when the game continues. Especially if they are lurking. And that's fair, but not always correct reasoning to suspect someone.

He's been under fire all game, and does not care. NO ONE IS DEFENDING HIM.

He's been inactive totally 3 nights out of 6 that I looked at. Not proof, but it's interesting.

And finally, his voting pattern is just... risky. Abstaining means you let town decide who dies. Capper votes make you a suspect.

So what if he lurked to victory in other games? He knows no one will let him do that again. Fellows, the cojones on glyphz if he were the Godfather, based on this evidence, tells me something.

But go ahead and lynch him with my blessing for lurking.

Thats the analysis of our top 2 lurkers. Make of it what you will.

White_Eyes:

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Voting:

1: Reenk election
2 Abstain
2a: Ichigo
3: Lord Winter early vote
4: Abstain
5: Abstain
5a: Askthepizzaguy
6: Seamus
7: Capper vote on Seamus.
8: glyphz, lurker.

Analysis:
Destroyed a possible mafioso, abstained most of the game, targeted Seamus one round and capper voted him the next, voted glyphz for lurking. Consistent play.

Activity:

Here 5/6 nights. A little scummy, but I've been here too.

Gaius Scribonius Curio:

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Voting Pattern:

Elect Countarach day one.
2: no vote
3: White Eyes
4: Capper Sigurd
5: QJC (not with the crowd)
5a: Abstains... leaves game to chance.
6: QJC (consistent)
7: Reenk
8: Shlin

Activity:

5 nights out of the first 6

Analysis: He non-votes, abstains, and does a lot of capper votes. He also offers new and interesting suspects like White Eyes and QJC. I already defended him up and down, and we have 2 more phases I think, so I'm done trying. I believe his actions in this game have been legitimate, and no one defended him when I tore into him early on in the game.

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QJC:

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Voting pattern:

Elects shlin
2a Seamus over Ichigo
3 Abstains
4 YLC over Sigurd
5 Tevash over Askthepizzaguy
5a Abstains
6: Didnt vote
7: shlin over seamus
8: abstains

Activity:

5 nights out of 6 that I looked at. I probably should do all of the nights but dangit... someone else can.

Analysis: QJC gave us options besides Seamus and Sigurd and Askthepizzaguy. He abstained the rest of the game, and voted shlin. His activity is solid, his post behavior is townie enough to me. He makes at least one move which would be Godfather-suicidal... and does several good late game analyses. He is not trying to control the game.

He hasn't had much heat on him though. But I feel that's justifiable. My analysis of him is a very close inspection... given Ares smells scummy but so far no one else does... I am actually anxious to find a second alternative. I couldn't find ANY case against QJC here.

Reenk Roink:

Defensive all game and defensive of Beefy as well. Seems to have stuck up for Tevash all game, and also he wanted to lynch Seamus as well as me. He was wrong on both of us being the Godfather.

But I've scrutinized Reenk enough. Time for a reprieve.

Voting Pattern:

1: Elects shlin
2: Abstain
2a: Abstain
3: Sasaki
4: Sigurd capper vote
5: ATPG
5a: ATPG (consistent)
6: Seamus
7: Capper on Seamus (consistent)

Activity:

4/6 nights that I looked at.

Analysis: Excellent defense against SkyNet's earlier case, and acting FAR too scummy to be concerned about his own life. I think he could be a mafia, but I don't think he's the Godfather. And he's got a better chance of being town. Reenk Roink.... once again... I cannot condone your death this round, as there are better suspects. And frankly, I am inclined to drop my case against you entirely, because if you're the Godfather after all this, well done.

Andres:

Early SkyNet revealed nothing. I am inclined to believe it's still that way. he knows how to avoid detection by now. I think he's a recruited mafioso... or a townie... but probably not the Godfather.

Congrats for avoiding detection if you're the Godfather, Andres. You earned it for moderating this crazy game.

Voting Pattern:

1. shlin28 (after campaigning for himself.
2a: Seamus over Ichigo
3: Sigurd over Lord Winter
4: Sigurd (consistent)
5: ATPG
5a: ATPG (consistent)
6: Tevash (good to check both sides of a huge argument for being scum...)
7: Shlin over Seamus
8: Gaius Scribonius Curio on several bad reasons, and one opinion reason. Fair enough.

I am not sure I trust Andres after round 7. Before I was sure he was a townie, now I think he's a recruit, but I'm almost certain he's no Godfather.

I suppose... a third place spot to be safe. I don't want to be that wrong, and if anyone can fool me good, Andres can.
Too many capper votes, too many reasonable votes.

Activity:

4/6 nights that I checked up on. Feel free to check the rest.

Analysis: Poor chance of being the Godfather. But we have 3 rounds, and I sincerely don't believe that it is him.

Conclusions:
777Ares777 is the best candidate.
Andres and Reenk Roink for a very, very distant second. And as for Beefy... well... Beefy always dies in every game. GeneralHankerchief choosing beefy187 for the Godfather... I don't see it. But whatever.