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    Taka
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    Nothing page 2
    3: Votes Ichigo
    4: Nothing
    5: Nothing
    6: Abstains, promises to contribute more later. Makes himself lynchbait.

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=586

    Basically points out that lurking will get him killed.
    Post 599... good point.
    Votes Sigurd.

    Lots of votes and pressure on Taka, but no one defends him and he doesn't stop lurking.
    I could end my analysis right here. Taka does a capper vote on Sigurd, very risky move if the Godfather

    More pressure on Taka by page 9.
    10: nothing
    11. Votes: TevashSzat. Tevash FOS'es Taka. Lord Winter FOS'es Taka.


    Hold it right there.
    I think we agree that Tevash and Lord Winter seem like scum. They both FoS'ed Taka. Taka has been under pressure all game for lurking, and hasn't bothered to defend himself. He hasn't been murdered because he's lynchbait. He doesn't care if he dies. He makes a "too risky" move by being one of the deciding votes on Sigurd.

    Chance of being scum is too low, given the other suspects and how people haven't defended him at all. I even suggested it would be OK to lynch all the lurkers before the game is over. I never fully cleared him, I said lynch him before the game is over. No one reacted. No one cares if he dies.

    He's innocent, if the reasoning holds. Feel free to correct me or tell me to shush up.



    glyphz:


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    Glyphz:

    Page 2: Elects TinCow
    Page 3: Random votes Ares, switches to Chaotix for what seems like legitimate "post in front of me... oops, wrong person" reasons.
    Page 4: Ares asks glyphz to suicide vote because technically, he was the post in front of him. Then Ares votes glyphz with no real reasoning.
    Votes Seamus to give us a choice besides Ichigo, as I said before.
    Page 5: nothing
    6: Tally
    7: nothing
    8: Chaotix votes glyphz for lurking. he never protests this.
    9: Post 663 he presents a defense.
    10: Tally
    11: Nothing
    12: Votes for me due to Tevash's reveal. Asks me to continue postmortem.
    Votes Tevash to tie. Debates the merits of my case. Warns me that he could vote me again because my case is unravelling. Goes back to sleep.
    13: Makes a note that if Tevash doesn't reveal soon, it's probably a forged PM.
    14: Abstains.
    15: Is questioned and gives a response:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=1175
    16: Ares accuses glyphz of being a top suspect.
    Others pressure vote glyphz, but the dog isn't barking. QJC doesnt trust him.
    17: Ares votes glyphz.
    Votes shlin28 on fair reasoning. Capper vote on shlin28.
    18: QJC calls for Taka or glyphz' head. Sasaki's top suspect.
    Ares votes glyphz again.
    Taka votes glyphz.
    White Eyes FOS' Taka and glyphz.
    Beefy votes glyphz.

    His final defense:
    "attempt at some sort of defense (or for the sake of one)...
    I think my post count so far, is pretty similar to previous behavior, not very talkative or 'lurkish' if you will. Relevant or not, I have missed at least 2 votes, and could be an eligible candidate to be WoG-ed, the next time I miss another one. Wouldn't you say that is risky for someone w/ a role, esp. one of the last remaining scum/s?

    Anyway, I'd pick between Andres and pevergreen, but em still undecided. Heck, if town (still thinks I'm dubious) wants it, i'll stop posting and (eventually) get WoG-ed. I'd be fine w/ it, and I'd be in every sense be truly LURKING."

    Activity: Active 3 nights out of 6 that I analyzed.

    Voting pattern:

    Seamus 2a
    didnt vote 3
    Capper on Sigurd day 4
    Abstains 5
    Tevash 5a (to tie)
    Abstains 6
    Abstains 7
    Capper on Shlin day 8

    Analysis:
    Lurks most of the game, but makes risky CAPPER votes frequently. Thats risky for the Godfather because anyone who makes a decisive vote is suspicious when the game continues. Especially if they are lurking. And that's fair, but not always correct reasoning to suspect someone.

    He's been under fire all game, and does not care. NO ONE IS DEFENDING HIM.

    He's been inactive totally 3 nights out of 6 that I looked at. Not proof, but it's interesting.

    And finally, his voting pattern is just... risky. Abstaining means you let town decide who dies. Capper votes make you a suspect.

    So what if he lurked to victory in other games? He knows no one will let him do that again. Fellows, the cojones on glyphz if he were the Godfather, based on this evidence, tells me something.

    But go ahead and lynch him with my blessing for lurking.

    Thats the analysis of our top 2 lurkers. Make of it what you will.

    White_Eyes:

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    2: Elects Reenk
    3: lynch method suggestion
    4: Abstains, then Votes Ichigo
    A deciding vote so early on a townie? Unlikely to be Godfather.
    Page 5: Good analysis of the writeups and game in general starts here. See post 375.
    6: Votes Lord Winter. Doesn't let up on him. Talks to me without hesitation.
    More important than being a capper vote, he votes Lord Winter before he was doomed, unlike me
    7: One of White_eyes' previous writeups is used.
    Page 9: Came to similar conclusions as me, and encouraged my analysis.
    Page 11: Unwilling to trust either me, or Sasaki. Votes for me over Tevash.
    Questions Ignoramus for popping up at this critical vote... naturally.
    Questions my analysis because it is biased. Thanks me for trying anyway.
    Page 13: Thinks unicyclist is the vigilante, and hammers Reenk.
    14: Votes Seamus.
    15: Next round, follows up on Seamus. CAPPER VOTE ON SEAMUS.
    Invites Seamus to investigate him.
    16: Votes lurker glyphz.
    17: Still has a sense of humor.



    Voting:


    1: Reenk election
    2 Abstain
    2a: Ichigo
    3: Lord Winter early vote
    4: Abstain
    5: Abstain
    5a: Askthepizzaguy
    6: Seamus
    7: Capper vote on Seamus.
    8: glyphz, lurker.


    Analysis:
    Destroyed a possible mafioso, abstained most of the game, targeted Seamus one round and capper voted him the next, voted glyphz for lurking. Consistent play.



    Activity:

    Here 5/6 nights. A little scummy, but I've been here too.




    Gaius Scribonius Curio:

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    Elect: CountArach
    3: lynch suggestion
    4: Early writeup analysis.
    5: Tries to be here for day phase, finds out it's night.
    6: Votes White Eyes
    7: Seems to be legitimately busy, but responds to questioning.
    8: Compellingly responded to my accusation. Very well done.
    Still doesnt find me scummy.
    9: Votes Sigurd for lack of activity, late capper vote.
    10: responds to my "follow the dead" idea.
    Doesnt follow the crowd, offers NEW suspect: votes QJC
    11: abstains
    12: nothing
    13: nothing
    14: demands role PM from Tevash, votes QJC again.
    15: Votes Reenk, quick analysis which seemed valid.
    16: nothing
    17: sides with me and votes Shlin. I did have a lot of reasons, ya know.

    I defend GSC on this page. So if I were guilty, GSC is the Godfather... but I tried to get people to suspect him earlier. Too insane a gamble, even for me. WIFOM? Lynch him, we still have 2 more rounds. Sorry for breaking my "defend no one" rule, but I did try to kill him and the reasoning Andres gave was totally torn to shreds.

    18: Votes Taka.

    His final defense:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=1373




    Voting Pattern:

    Elect Countarach day one.
    2: no vote
    3: White Eyes
    4: Capper Sigurd
    5: QJC (not with the crowd)
    5a: Abstains... leaves game to chance.
    6: QJC (consistent)
    7: Reenk
    8: Shlin

    Activity:

    5 nights out of the first 6


    Analysis: He non-votes, abstains, and does a lot of capper votes. He also offers new and interesting suspects like White Eyes and QJC. I already defended him up and down, and we have 2 more phases I think, so I'm done trying. I believe his actions in this game have been legitimate, and no one defended him when I tore into him early on in the game.



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    QJC:

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    2: Elects shlin
    3: lynch method suggestions, Abstains
    4: Votes Gaius Scribonius Curio as a pure OMGUS vote. Risky for the Godfather to play.
    Votes Seamus instead, because it came down to him and Ichigo and the ichigo bandwagon was dumb.
    5: Points out I wasnt in previous game.
    6: nothing
    7: Gives an analysis, and a suspect list post 550
    8: Votes YLC
    9: Talks to me about whether Lord Winter is conclusively scum. Appreciates first SkyNet analysis.
    Votes Tevash on my reasoning, plus Lord Winter looked like scum.
    10: nothing
    11: Asks for more time for me, but agrees I should be lynched if I fail. votes Tevash
    12: unvotes Tevash after the reveal. Gives reasons why I am a better lynch than him.
    13: encourages YLC to keep playing
    14: nothing
    15: good reasoning on Tevash... suspects shlin. Votes shlin, says lurkers can wait.
    16. wishes Seamus happy b-day. Wants Seamus to do further analysis.
    17. Seems to be ok with shlin's lynch, but questions the lurkers. Encourages me to continue my inquisition.
    18: post 1365: encourages me and Tincow to pick up where Seamus left off.
    Does a "bloody hands" analysis of Taka. Good work!
    Does more analysis post 1393
    Votes Curio.



    Voting pattern:

    Elects shlin
    2a Seamus over Ichigo
    3 Abstains
    4 YLC over Sigurd
    5 Tevash over Askthepizzaguy
    5a Abstains
    6: Didnt vote
    7: shlin over seamus
    8: abstains

    Activity:

    5 nights out of 6 that I looked at. I probably should do all of the nights but dangit... someone else can.



    Analysis: QJC gave us options besides Seamus and Sigurd and Askthepizzaguy. He abstained the rest of the game, and voted shlin. His activity is solid, his post behavior is townie enough to me. He makes at least one move which would be Godfather-suicidal... and does several good late game analyses. He is not trying to control the game.

    He hasn't had much heat on him though. But I feel that's justifiable. My analysis of him is a very close inspection... given Ares smells scummy but so far no one else does... I am actually anxious to find a second alternative. I couldn't find ANY case against QJC here.



    Reenk Roink:

    Defensive all game and defensive of Beefy as well. Seems to have stuck up for Tevash all game, and also he wanted to lynch Seamus as well as me. He was wrong on both of us being the Godfather.

    But I've scrutinized Reenk enough. Time for a reprieve.

    Voting Pattern:


    1: Elects shlin
    2: Abstain
    2a: Abstain
    3: Sasaki
    4: Sigurd capper vote
    5: ATPG
    5a: ATPG (consistent)
    6: Seamus
    7: Capper on Seamus (consistent)

    Activity:

    4/6 nights that I looked at.

    Analysis: Excellent defense against SkyNet's earlier case, and acting FAR too scummy to be concerned about his own life. I think he could be a mafia, but I don't think he's the Godfather. And he's got a better chance of being town. Reenk Roink.... once again... I cannot condone your death this round, as there are better suspects. And frankly, I am inclined to drop my case against you entirely, because if you're the Godfather after all this, well done.




    Andres:


    Early SkyNet revealed nothing. I am inclined to believe it's still that way. he knows how to avoid detection by now. I think he's a recruited mafioso... or a townie... but probably not the Godfather.

    Congrats for avoiding detection if you're the Godfather, Andres. You earned it for moderating this crazy game.

    Voting Pattern:


    1. shlin28 (after campaigning for himself.
    2a: Seamus over Ichigo
    3: Sigurd over Lord Winter
    4: Sigurd (consistent)
    5: ATPG
    5a: ATPG (consistent)
    6: Tevash (good to check both sides of a huge argument for being scum...)
    7: Shlin over Seamus
    8: Gaius Scribonius Curio on several bad reasons, and one opinion reason. Fair enough.

    I am not sure I trust Andres after round 7. Before I was sure he was a townie, now I think he's a recruit, but I'm almost certain he's no Godfather.

    I suppose... a third place spot to be safe. I don't want to be that wrong, and if anyone can fool me good, Andres can.
    Too many capper votes, too many reasonable votes.

    Activity:

    4/6 nights that I checked up on. Feel free to check the rest.


    Analysis: Poor chance of being the Godfather. But we have 3 rounds, and I sincerely don't believe that it is him.





    Conclusions:
    777Ares777 is the best candidate.
    Andres and Reenk Roink for a very, very distant second. And as for Beefy... well... Beefy always dies in every game. GeneralHankerchief choosing beefy187 for the Godfather... I don't see it. But whatever.
    Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 02-22-2009 at 15:39. Reason: SkyNet analysis part 3
    #Winstontoostrong
    #Montytoostronger

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    Default Re: SkyNet analysis part 3

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    eefy always dies in every game. GeneralHankerchief choosing beefy187 for the Godfather... I don't see it. But whatever.
    Beefy could have been selected as thr GF at random.

    Edit: Nevermind, GH posted before me.
    Last edited by shlin28; 02-22-2009 at 16:30.


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