The Godfather, Part 3 [Concluded]

**Reenk Roink** · 02-26-2009, 21:08

Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Only with a solo godfather: 6 - 1L#1 = 5, 5- 1m = 4, 4 - 1L#2 = 3, 3 - 1m = 2, Godfather wins.

With an associate: 6 - 1L#1 = 5, 5 - 1m = 4, but with 2 mafiosi that's a mafia win right there.

So Reenk, do you always play endgames by not reading other's posts? I had already discussed this in detail before the night write up. Since I am certain you are not stupid, and though I know your STYLE to be cavalier your play is anything BUT....

~~Vote: Reenk Roink~~

....alas, I cannot do it. The Reenkster decided I was evil on a hunch and got me lynched. I do admire your play sir, yes indeedly-doodly I do.

I did glance at your post (and see mine above). I don't agree at all that there are two Mafia left.

Even if we grant there are two Mafia remaining now, if the town just listens to me and knocks of Andres, and then listens to me again and knocks off the other guy I pick, and both of these guys happen to be Mafia, we win!

I honestly can't think of a better plan.

**TinCow** · 02-26-2009, 21:16

Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

I honestly can't think of a better plan.

How about playing it safe by assuming this is the last lynch phase the town will get, and thus it had better be right? You may say you don't care about winning, but I'm sure most of the other players do.

**Reenk Roink** · 02-26-2009, 21:19

Originally Posted by TinCow

How about playing it safe by assuming this is the last lynch phase the town will get, and thus it had better be right? You may say you don't care about winning, but I'm sure most of the other players do.

First I never said I didn't care about winning...

Ok sure, if you really want to, then lynch me as you seem to think I am the best choice for your victory. I will help you achieve what you think will lead to your victory (I have a good writeup for my lynch already done, and I don't have to bother with the generic writeup then

).

Unvote: Andres
Vote: Reenk Roink

**TinCow** · 02-26-2009, 21:29

Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

First I never said I didn't care about winning...

Not in those exact words, but you did pretty clearly state that you would enjoy lynching someone you didn't think was the Godfather more than you would enjoy winning the game:

Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Also, winning is fun, but this is more fun.

Your schizophrenic play style is entertaining, but as noted by Seamus, you're a smart guy. I simply don't believe you'd intentionally avoid doing whatever you thought would win you the game at this late a phase. You're playing to win just like everyone else, which give dubious authenticity to your statements about doing the opposite.

**Quintus.JC** · 02-26-2009, 21:38

Reenk nevered looked like the godfather to me, he could be a grunt, but not the GF.

Sasaki's theory about Beefy or White_Eyes could still be developed though.

**Thermal** · 02-26-2009, 22:04

Taka is absent from all games, i doubt he is the godfather or a grunt, keep the pressure on beefy, I mean whats wrong with RR and andres?

Love to see ATPG get his whole analysis theory of me being mafia now

Seriously QJC, beefy and white eyes are the dangerous zones BIG time

Also hasn't anyone kinda guessed my role yet?

**Reenk Roink** · 02-26-2009, 22:06

Originally Posted by TinCow

Not in those exact words, but you did pretty clearly state that you would enjoy lynching someone you didn't think was the Godfather more than you would enjoy winning the game:

Never have I said that Andres was not the Godfather. I thought I made it clear before that just that QJC surpasses him in my suspicions to be the Godfather. So no, I believe you have thoroughly misunderstood the meaning of my "winning is fun but this is more fun" phrase.

It was first a subtle response to your assertion that I don't think Andres is Godfather anymore, perhaps I should have put "winning" in quotes.

Recall I added this to my post:

Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

obviously I still believe Andres is probably a Godfather too if QJC is not, and I believe his not voting for me is to set up a scapegoat. I honestly don't see what's so hard about this.

There are other reasons I was voting for Andres over QJC which I have not yet divulged. For one, the fact that Andres will certainly have a better shot of being lynched than QJC who many think is clean.

Originally Posted by TinCow

Your schizophrenic play style is entertaining, but as noted by Seamus, you're a smart guy. I simply don't believe you'd intentionally avoid doing whatever you thought would win you the game at this late a phase. You're playing to win just like everyone else, which give dubious authenticity to your statements about doing the opposite.

Well, I thank you and Seamus for the compliments, but I fail to see how being smart excludes me in anyway from my playing style. I mean, I would say that everyone here is smart. Every single person I've worked with closely in Mafia gives a lot of thought into the game, makes strategies, and comes up with plans. And I am quite sure that winning is not as important to me as some may ascribe to me.

I am playing to win, to a degree, but I am also enjoying the absolute uncertainty at this stage. It should be a great finish.

**TinCow** · 02-26-2009, 22:17

Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

Recall I added this to my post:

I have seen mafioso edit their posts when they realize they have made themselves vulerable with a gaffe or some other slip-up. For this reason, I think it is wise to read the post as originally written, and then consider the edit as a separate post, taking into account the time it was done to see it in its proper context.

It should be a great finish.

Without a doubt. GH actually got me with his 'game over' line in the last write-up, before I read the "Just kidding" bit. I've definitely enjoyed this game more than any of the others that I've been a townie in.